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Typhoon Gaemi making landfall in Taiwan In Gaelic football, the All-Ireland Senior Football Championship concludes with Armagh defeating Galway in the final. Typhoon Gaemi (satellite loop shown) leaves more than 70 people dead in the Philippines, China, Taiwan, and Cambodia. Landslides kill at least 257 people in Geze Gofa, Ethiopia. In cycling, Tadej Pogačar wins the Tour de France. Ongoing: Israel–Hamas war timeline Russian invasion of Ukraine timeline Sudanese civil war timeline Summer Olympics timeline Recent deaths: Wolfgang Rihm Randy Kehler Eugene Sârbu Jerzy Artysz John Mayall Alexander Waugh view — page history — related changes — edit

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July 31

Portal:Current events/2024 July 31

July 31, 2024 (2024-07-31) (Wednesday) Armed conflicts and attacks Israel–Hamas war Assassination of Ismail Haniyeh Hamas leader Ismail Haniyeh is assassinated in Tehran, Iran, while attending the inauguration ceremony for Iranian president Masoud Pezeshkian. (NBC News) (The New York Times) Disasters and accidents 2024 Manila Bay oil spill The Cavite provincial government in the Philippines declares a "state of calamity" after an oil spill from the sunk MT Terra Nova reaches the shores of eight municipalities, requiring implementation of a no-catch zone and relief aid to be given to ~25,000 fishers. (GMA Network) The MV Mirola 1 is discovered to have ran aground near the coast of Bataan, becoming the third vessel to spill oil into Manila Bay in one week. (GMA Network) Law and crime Twenty-six people are arrested in Madrid, Málaga, and Toledo by Spanish police for operating a sex trafficking ring that abused over 600 women. Thirty-two women were freed during the operation. (AP)

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Killing of Ismail Haniyeh

Article: Killing of Ismail Haniyeh (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ Ismail Haniyeh, the leader of Hamas, is killed in Tehran. (Post)
News source(s): The New York Times
Credits:

• Nominated by ElijahPepe (talk · give credit)

• Wait Lets get some more detail and flesh out the article. Right now we don't know much at all. It's also worth noting that today/tonight Israel is believed to have killed a senior military commander of Hezbollah in Beirut. Kind of reminds me of the last 10 minutes of The Godfather when all of the family's accounts are settled. -Ad Orientem (talk) 03:59, 31 July 2024 (UTC)
• Zero need for a separate death article, unless the actual operation that took him down is well documented. Save for a couple of tags, the main bio article is ready to go. (And this is pending confirmation that seems up in the air right now. And to add once more, if true, clearly notable and ITN appropriate beyond the current ongoings) --Masem (t) 04:05, 31 July 2024 (UTC)
• Strong support Confirmed by Iranian sources, which are likely to be biased more towards Haniyeh and in favor of reporting him alive, but that is not the case. Apart from the legitimacy of this assassination, I strongly disagree with Masem in this regard and believe this should have a standalone article aswell as this marks the highest killing of a Hamas official/leader since the Israel-Hamas war started on October 7 and since the killing of Saleh al Arouri in January. Although it's very early right now to say anything about the killing, I believe as more time passes, more information will eventually be revealed as this is a huge event. Worst case scenario, if the killing is so poorly documented, I still believe it should have a standalone section in some article somewhere. Haniyeh has also held numerous positions other than just leading Hamas. TwistedAxe [contact] 04:27, 31 July 2024 (UTC)
• Oppose on quality: Article still needs a lot more work in order to qualify for ITN. More information is also needed on the assassination. Support once all these issues have been addressed. Tofusaurus (talk) 04:31, 31 July 2024 (UTC)
• Wait - article is still developing/too short, and fog of war is still very much in effect w/ regards to exactly what happened (airstrike vs “raid,” official claims of responsibility, etc). Pretty much all that’s clearly confirmed at this moment is that he was assassinated in the first place. The Kip ^(contribs) 04:39, 31 July 2024 (UTC)
• Strong support, per TwistedAxe. The article should be "Assassination of Ismail Haniyeh".--Dr-Taher (talk) 04:48, 31 July 2024 (UTC)
• Support ITN worthy, but wait until more reporting comes in, then we need to add the cause of death to the blurb because the current one is too short Afif Brika1 (talk) 05:06, 31 July 2024 (UTC)
• Oppose. Assassination of Ismail Haniyeh is just one small section of Ismail Haniyeh that was split out into its own stub for some reason. If this were fixed, then the main article would just need a little proseline clean up before it's ready. It's also developing a list of WP:INDISCRIMINATE trivia in the "responses" section as these articles often do, so that's another barrier. Thebiguglyalien (talk) 05:31, 31 July 2024 (UTC)
• Support on the basis of it being a notable event. Kurtis ^(talk) 05:48, 31 July 2024 (UTC)
• Support per above This post was made by orbitalbuzzsaw gang (talk) 06:37, 31 July 2024 (UTC)
• Support on notability, huge development. Shadow4dark (talk) 07:47, 31 July 2024 (UTC)

July 30

Portal:Current events/2024 July 30

July 30, 2024 (2024-07-30) (Tuesday) Armed conflicts and attacks Israel–Hezbollah conflict 2024 Haret Hreik airstrike Israel launches a missile attack on southern Beirut, Lebanon, killing at least three civilians and injuring 74 others. (Al Jazeera) Israel claims it has killed Hezbollah senior commander Fuad Shukr in an airstrike in Beirut, while Hezbollah says he is still alive. (Reuters) An Israeli civilian is killed in the HaGoshrim kibbutz by a rocket fired from Lebanon. (Reuters) Russian invasion of Ukraine Eastern Ukraine campaign The Russian defense ministry says that its forces have taken control of the settlement of Pivdenne in Donetsk region, Ukraine. (Reuters) Kivu conflict Angolan President João Lourenço announces that the Democratic Republic of the Congo and Rwanda have agreed to a ceasefire following Angola-mediated talks. (TRT Afrika) Kurdistan Workers' Party insurgency The Turkish defense ministry says that it targeted Kurdish militants in northern Iraq with air strikes, killing 13 people. (Reuters) Unidentified gunmen open fire on a bulletproof vehicle carrying local staff working for a United Nations development agency in Dera Ismail Khan, Pakistan. No casualties have been reported. (TOI) Business and economy Tesla recalls more than 1.8 million vehicles due to a hood issue that could increase the risk of a crash. An over-the-air software update for the issue was made available in June. (Quartz) Rex Airlines, Australia's third-largest airline, suspends all domestic Boeing 737 flights and enters voluntary administration. (AFR) Spain's competition watchdog fines online travel agency Booking.com with a record €413 million fine for "abusing its dominant position" in the past five years. (France 24) Disasters and accidents 2024 Pacific typhoon season Typhoon Gaemi The death toll from torrential rains and floods caused by remnants of Typhoon Gaemi in Hunan, China, increases to 22. (Yahoo! Canada) 2024 Gaza Strip polio epidemic The World Health Organization reports that it is now "very likely" that poliovirus has infected Gazan citizens and is spreading among the population. The statement was released shortly after the Gaza Health Ministry declared a polio epidemic in the territory. (Reuters) (Barron's) 2024 Wayanad landslides At least 162 people are killed, 191 others are injured, and more than 89 others are missing in landslides in Wayanad district, Kerala, India. (The Times of India) (Al Jazeera) Killucan helicopter crash A helicopter crashes near Killucan, County Westmeath, Ireland, killing two people. (RTÉ) Five people are killed and nine others are injured when a boat capsizes on the Nile River in Cairo, Egypt. (Al Ahram) International relations Algeria–France relations, Politics of Western Sahara Algeria withdraws its ambassador from France after France recognizes the Western Sahara Autonomy Proposal, which was proposed by Morocco in 2007. (RFI) Armenia–Turkey relations Turkey and Armenia resume talks aimed at normalizing diplomatic relations and agree to simplify visa rules for some passport holders. (Al Arabiya) Foreign relations of Afghanistan The Taliban suspends relations with 14 Afghan overseas diplomatic missions and announces that they will no longer accept consular documents issued by these missions. (RFE/RL) Kyrgyzstan–Tajikistan relations Kyrgyzstan says that 94% of the Kyrgyzstan–Tajikistan border has been agreed upon by officials from both countries. (RFE/RL) Philippines–United States relations U.S. Secretary of State Antony Blinken announces the allocation of $500 million to fund the Philippine military. (DW) Law and crime 2024 Venezuelan protests Freddy Superlano, a leading figure in Venezuela's opposition coalition, is arrested as the death toll from ongoing anti-Maduro protests increases to four. (Al Arabiya) American Indian boarding school gravesites A federal investigation commissioned by U.S. Interior Secretary Deb Haaland discovers that sixty-five federal American Indian boarding school sites have unmarked or marked gravesites, and confirms that "at least" 973 Native American children died at boarding schools, primarily from abuse and illness. (AP) British Islamic preacher Anjem Choudary is sentenced to life in prison with a minimum sentence of 28 years for directing the al-Muhajiroun militant network. (ABC News) Interpol announces that more than 200 people have been arrested and more than US$1.6 billion of illegal drugs and precursor chemicals seized as part of a two-month operation against narcotics trafficking conducted across Europe, North America, and Africa. (ABC News) Belarusian President Alexander Lukashenko pardons a German citizen in death row. (Barron's) Politics and elections Masoud Pezeshkian is inaugurated as the ninth president of Iran. (France 24) Sports 2024 Summer Olympics Concerns and controversies at the 2024 Summer Olympics Olympic officials postpone the men's individual triathlon race due to poor water quality levels in the Seine river. (CNN) Several athletes test positive for COVID-19, including Australian swimmer Lani Pallister, forcing her to withdraw from the 1500 metre freestyle swimming event. (Al Arabiya) Brazil at the 2024 Summer Olympics Brazil wins a bronze medal in women’s artistic gymnastics, their first ever medal in the sport. (France 24) United States at the 2024 Summer Olympics The United States wins a bronze medal in women's rugby, their first ever medal in the sport at the Olympics. (Fox News)

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RD: Onyeka Onwenu

Article: Onyeka Onwenu (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): [1]
Credits:

• Nominated by 240F:7A:6253:1:D057:E125:D731:507A (talk · give credit)
• Updated by Nenub (talk · give credit) and Cleanupbabe (talk · give credit)

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nigerian singer-songwriter and actress. 240F:7A:6253:1:D057:E125:D731:507A (talk) 06:56, 31 July 2024 (UTC)

2024 Wayanad landslides

Article: 2024 Wayanad landslides (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ At least 168 people die as a result of 2024 Wayanad landslides in Wayanad, India. (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ Landslides in Wayanad, India kill at least 168 people.
Alternative blurb II: ​ The deadliest landslides in Kerala history kill at least 168 in Wayanad.
News source(s): https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c51y7k2y7v1o
Credits:

• Nominated by Pachu Kannan (talk · give credit)
• Updated by Quake1234 (talk · give credit), Golem469 (talk · give credit), Spworld2 (talk · give credit), Sherenk1 (talk · give credit) and Pachu Kannan (talk · give credit)

These landslides got international media attention. Pachu Kannan (talk) 15:38, 30 July 2024 (UTC)

• Support - Notable enough, with multiple international media mentions. The Herald (Benison) (talk) 06:18, 31 July 2024 (UTC)

2024 Venezuela protests

Article: 2024 Venezuelan protests (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ Protests erupt in Venezuela against the Maduro government, after his victory in the 2024 elections that was widely seen as fraudulent. (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ In Venezuela widespread protests erupt as the official 2024 election results are contested.
Alternative blurb II: ​ Widespread protests erupt after Nicolás Maduro is declared the winner of Venezuela's 2024 presidential election amid allegations of electoral fraud.
Alternative blurb III: ​ At least 19 people are killed during widespread protests in Venezuela after Nicolás Maduro claims to have won the 2024 presidential election amid allegations of electoral fraud.
Credits:

• Nominated by PrecariousWorlds (talk · give credit)

This should probably be combined with the blurb below, but I think the protests are only becoming larger and larger, and are now international news. Article is making good progress. Libertad! PrecariousWorlds (talk) 10:37, 30 July 2024 (UTC)

Support: This would obviously be better than a blurb only about Maduro's win. Article is small but is expanding. Prodrummer619 (talk) 10:51, 30 July 2024 (UTC)

• Support Perhaps reads more like a chronology, but well updated. And anecdotally, the BBC News report leads with the scale and severity of the protests, only saying "disputed re-election" as context - so I don’t think this needs to be combined with or wait for the election nom (below), it’s sufficiently standalone news. Kingsif (talk) 12:19, 30 July 2024 (UTC)
• Oppose I know that there are protests going on there, but just listing a bunch of events in a chronological order without anything else that indicates these are all tied together is not a quality article. --Masem (t) 12:24, 30 July 2024 (UTC)
• Comment Surely we would combine this blurb with the blurb for the election, so this nomination probably can just be replaced by adding an altblurb to the nom for the presidential election. Gödel2200 (talk) 14:07, 30 July 2024 (UTC)
• Comment I have added an alt blurb. Unfortunately I am not (as of this comment) satisfied with the quality of the main article on the elections. But I do think the situation in Venezuela merits a blurb on the main page. The protest article is adequate for posting. I have included an unbolded link to the article on the elections. Hopefully it will continue to improve. -Ad Orientem (talk) 15:47, 30 July 2024 (UTC)
• Comment Perhaps a combined blurb could be something like "Widespread protests erupt after Nicolas Maduro is declared the winner of Venezuela's contested (or "controversial") 2024 presidential election". PtolemyXV (talk) 15:56, 30 July 2024 (UTC)
• Comment Added alt3. It can definitely be improved; death toll taken from the article, which could also be improved, especially after another day. Kingsif (talk) 20:54, 30 July 2024 (UTC)
• Support National election results are noteworthy, and I think the quality of the article will continue to improve given the magnitude of the event. Royal Autumn Crest (talk) 21:03, 30 July 2024 (UTC)

RD: William Calley

Article: William Calley (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): NY Times
Credits:

• Nominated by Ad Orientem (talk · give credit)

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

American war criminal. Only man convicted in the My Lai Massacre. He died on April 28th but his death was only just reported. Article is in decent shape. -Ad Orientem (talk) 04:53, 30 July 2024 (UTC)

Support! He was the only one convicted in this important event. 109.43.48.31 (talk) 13:28, 30 July 2024 (UTC)

We'll post anyone important enough to have a Wikipedia page; we only assess article quality here. Bremps... 15:05, 30 July 2024 (UTC)

• Support One cn tag shouldn't keep hit this otherwise lengthy well sourced article from getting posted. --TDKR Chicago 101 (talk) 18:59, 30 July 2024 (UTC)

  I have added a cite and removed the only CN tag. -Ad Orientem (talk) 22:14, 30 July 2024 (UTC)

• Support - Article meets ITN standards for posting. Jusdafax (talk) 00:03, 31 July 2024 (UTC)

July 29

Portal:Current events/2024 July 29

July 29, 2024 (2024-07-29) (Monday) Armed conflicts and attacks Mali War Battle of Tinzaouaten The Wagner Group states that it and the Malian military sustained heavy losses in clashes with Tuareg rebels near the Algeria–Mali border. (Al Arabiya) (France 24) The Main Directorate of Intelligence of Ukraine claims that it provided assistance to the Tuareg rebels in their battle against Wagner Group mercenaries in Mali. (The Guardian) Russian invasion of Ukraine Eastern Ukraine campaign Ukrainian army sergeant Oleh Chaus reports that the Russian army captured the eastern Donetsk villages of Prohres and Vovche, citing insufficient weapon supplies, deficient training, and decreased motivation as causes of the setback. (AP) 2024 France railway arson attacks French police arrest a far-left extremist who may have been behind an attack on the TGV long-distance train network ahead of the opening of the 2024 Summer Olympics in Paris. (DW) Israel–Hezbollah conflict Major international flagship airlines including Lufthansa, Turkish Airlines, and Ethiopian Airlines cancel or delay flights at Beirut–Rafic Hariri International Airport in Lebanon due to threats of Israeli retaliation towards Hezbollah. (Al Jazeera) Sudanese civil war Human Rights Watch reports widespread acts of sexual violence in the Sudanese capital of Khartoum, including gang rape and forced marriages committed by the army and Rapid Support Forces. (Reuters) Protesters taking part in a march in Gwadar, Pakistan, attack security forces deployed to guard them, killing a soldier and injuring 16 others, according to the Pakistani Army. (Reuters) Far-right Israeli protestors, including several members of the Knesset, storm the Sde Teiman detention camp after military police from the defense forces detained nine reservists on suspicion of sexually abusing a Palestinian detainee. (Haaretz) Business and economy The United Arab Emirates grants lottery licenses for the first time in the country's history. (Al Arabiya) Disasters and accidents At least two people are killed and as many as 100 others are injured when a passenger train carrying 800 people collides with a Kamaz truck near Volgograd, Russia, and partially derails. (Al Arabiya) International relations Guatemala–Mexico relations, Mexican drug war The Guatemalan government grants temporary resident permits to over 200 Mexicans, mostly children, on humanitarian grounds as they escape drug violence. (AP) Panama–Venezuela relations, 2024 Venezuelan presidential election Panama suspends diplomatic relations with Venezuela and withdraws its diplomatic personnel from the country until a full review of the presidential election results is concluded. (Reuters) Law and crime 2024 Southport stabbing Three children are killed and ten other people are injured in a mass stabbing at a dance school in Southport, Merseyside, England. A teenager is subsequently arrested. (BBC News) Sakina Muhammad Jan becomes the first person to be jailed under Australia's forced marriage laws after ordering her 21-year-old daughter to marry a man who later murdered her. (BBC News) The Grand National Assembly of Turkey approves a law ordering the euthanization of stray dogs that are sick or have been deemed aggressive. (SCMP) French police report multiple sabotage acts targeting telecommunications operators in parts of the country, affecting 11,000 clients, with the incidents being treated as vandalism. (DW) (Politico) King Mohammed VI of Morocco pardons jailed journalists Taoufik Bouachrine, Omar Radi, and Soulaimane Raissouni, along with 2,476 other convicts, as part of a gesture marking the 25th anniversary of his reign. (Reuters) Politics and elections 2024 Venezuelan presidential election Foreign relations of Venezuela United States–Venezuela relations United States Secretary of State Antony Blinken states that the U.S. government has "serious concerns" that the Venezuelan election results do not reflect "the will nor the votes of the Venezuelan people" and demands that Venezuelan electoral authorities publish fair and transparent election results, adding that the United States and the international community will "respond accordingly". (AP) Venezuela recalls its diplomats in Argentina, Chile, Costa Rica, Dominican Republic, Panama, Peru, and Uruguay after those countries oppose the election results. (TRT World) 2024 Venezuelan protests At least one person is killed as protests occur throughout Venezuela due to the disputed election results. (AP) (Hindustan Times) 2024 Serbian environmental protests, Jadar mining project Thousands of environmentalists and opposition group members protest across Serbia against a European Union–Serbian government lithium mining project meant to reduce its dependency on Chinese lithium that would seize and raze several rivers and forests. (AP) Sports 2024 Summer Olympics Concerns and controversies at the 2024 Summer Olympics Slovak deputy prime minister Tomáš Taraba announces that he will boycott the Olympics closing ceremony in response to being offended by what he called "progressive political theater" hosted by "drag queens" during the opening ceremony. (Anadolu Agency) Olympic organisers cancel the second session of triathlon training due to water quality concerns in the Seine river. (France 24)

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RD: Chino XL

Article: Chino XL (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Rolling Stone, Variety
Credits:

• Nominated by 240F:7A:6253:1:FD24:8B6B:DCD3:55B5 (talk · give credit)
• Updated by TheAstuteObserver (talk · give credit)

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

American rapper and actor. 240F:7A:6253:1:FD24:8B6B:DCD3:55B5 (talk) 21:33, 30 July 2024 (UTC)

RD: Robert Banas

Article: Robert Banas (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): The Hollywood Reporter
Credits:

• Nominated by 240F:7A:6253:1:FD24:8B6B:DCD3:55B5 (talk · give credit)
• Updated by Tinton5 (talk · give credit) and Jkaharper (talk · give credit)

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

American dancer and actors. 240F:7A:6253:1:FD24:8B6B:DCD3:55B5 (talk) 21:33, 30 July 2024 (UTC)

(Closed) Deadpool & Wolverine

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Article: Deadpool & Wolverine (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ Deadpool & Wolverine, starring Ryan Reynolds (pictured), breaks box office records for an R-rated movie in its opening weekend (Post)
News source(s): CNN, France24, Hollywood Reporter,LA Times, NYT, Straits Times, Variety
Credits:

• Nominated by Andrew Davidson (talk · give credit)
• Created by Captain Assassin! (talk · give credit)
• Updated by BarntToust (talk · give credit), Favre1fan93 (talk · give credit), KingArti (talk · give credit), Richiekim (talk · give credit) and Trailblazer101 (talk · give credit)

Article updated

This has been a hit with our readers too as the top read article for several straight days now, beating the Olympics, the elections and the rest. Andrew🐉(talk) 10:03, 29 July 2024 (UTC)

• Oppose ITN is not for these types of news. First of all, we do not post News items just because they are the most read one, that goes here. Second, R-rating is just a US specific rating and a large of readers probably do not know about it and therefore this record holds little value to them. Lastly, it is only the 6th largest opening in the US overall and around 12th biggest worldwide opening for any movie, so hardly a groundbreaking record. PrinceofPunjab^TALK 11:07, 29 July 2024 (UTC)
• Oppose Not the type of business news we post, and to state this yet again, we do not use page views as a metric of whether we should post at ITN in the first place. --Masem (t) 11:57, 29 July 2024 (UTC)
• Oppose per PrinceofPunjab. Estreyeria (talk) 13:08, 29 July 2024 (UTC)
• Oppose per Prince of Punjab. This isn't the overall record, which is inevitably broken due to inflation. This is like saying there is a new tallest building in the world...well, the tallest that Americans under 17 can enter with adult supervision. Unknown Temptation (talk) 13:11, 29 July 2024 (UTC)

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New UNESCO World Heritage Sites

Article: List of World Heritage Sites by year of inscription#2024 (46th session) (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ The World Heritage Committee in New Delhi selected 24 new sites for the global List of World Heritage Sites, with the Schwerin Castle in Germany (pictured) among them. (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ 24 new sites were selected for the global List of World Heritage Sites during the 46th session in New Delhi, India.
Alternative blurb II: ​ The World Heritage Committee designates 24 new UNESCO World Heritage Sites during its 46th session in New Delhi, India (Schwerin Castle in Germany pictured).
News source(s): UNESCO DW EuroNews
Credits:

• Nominated by Horst-schlaemma (talk · give credit)

Article updated

The newly selected UNESCO World Heritage Sites are normally featured in the News here. Example can be left out or swapped, I think it is usually a wonderful addition. -- Horst-schlaemma (talk) 09:25, 29 July 2024 (UTC)

• Support After a huge emphasis on sports and politics lately, more cultural news are definitely appreciated! And this is certainly the most relevant of the past few weeks. Venustates (talk) 09:48, 29 July 2024 (UTC)
• Maybe It's interesting, in the news and encyclopedic but there are over a thousand of these sites now and another 24 seems too many to be headlining particular cases. In the UK, it was the Flow Country which got attention. How do we decide which to feature? Andrew🐉(talk) 10:18, 29 July 2024 (UTC)

  Comment: I totally get that, that's why I said the example can of course also be left out, though it is nice to have a picturesque example included. But I wouldn't put much emphasis on that. Greetings, Horst-schlaemma (talk) 10:20, 29 July 2024 (UTC)

  As I noted below, Ruins of Gedi is a GA and probably the highest-quality article of the sites selected, so it would be a good choice to feature with an image. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 13:04, 29 July 2024 (UTC)

• Support article is in a good shape. PrinceofPunjab^TALK 11:11, 29 July 2024 (UTC)
• Support with a picture of Ruins of Gedi, which is a GA and has the highest-quality article of the sites selected. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 13:04, 29 July 2024 (UTC)

  The article looks good, no doubt! Though the Good Article batch is from 2017 already and criteria have become quite a bit more strict. Greetings, Horst-schlaemma (talk) 13:13, 29 July 2024 (UTC)

  I think the Schwerin Castle makes the perfect picture of all new entries! -- Venustates (talk) 13:37, 29 July 2024 (UTC)

• Comment This happens every year and sometimes more than once per year, and we never post them. This time there are more than 20, and overall more than 1000. What we post are removal of the sites because the countries have managed them badly. This comment coming from someone heavily involved with World Heritage lists ;) --Tone 13:17, 29 July 2024 (UTC)

  Certainly! At the same time, there are several things that happen every year or multiple times a year, like various sports events, or Oscar recipients (yawn ;) that are *always* posted. It's usually in all national news when a country gets a new World Heritage List entry. -- Venustates (talk) 13:37, 29 July 2024 (UTC)

  • Actually, I'll add that the list is factually inaccurate. For example, the Moravian Church settlements were listed in 2015 in Denmark. In 2024, the site was extended to include sites in the US, UK, and Germany. And yet, in the list, everything is listed as in 2015, which is incorrect. Oppose on quality, and on no prose. (but yes, I am all for posting good news) --Tone 03:54, 30 July 2024 (UTC)

Ok, if it is just about that very detail, how about just changing it in the article and we're good. :) -- Horst-schlaemma (talk) 09:59, 30 July 2024 (UTC)

• Support yeah, why not? I get that it hasn't been posted before but I think doing something different would be interesting. Blythwood (talk) 14:22, 29 July 2024 (UTC)
• Oppose on account more than anything else of not being sure the best way to blurb this. It's a routine event, but unlike an election, prize, or sporting event, there is no "winner". There is no overarching individual story here save the same sort that happens any individual year. Either we're just saying sites are announced (which isn't really news itself because, again, it's a scheduled event), or we're singling out one like in the original blurb, which is putting undue focus on whichever site we select to feature. DarkSide830 (talk) 15:03, 29 July 2024 (UTC)
• Support It's nice to have positive news instead of the usual assassination, coup, plane crash, or natural disaster. Celjski Grad (talk) 15:06, 29 July 2024 (UTC)
• Support per above, nice to have something good in itn for once Sharrdx (talk) 15:17, 29 July 2024 (UTC)
• Support A wonderful nomination! With regards to pics, we could feature several ones over the course of the days this stays on top. E.g. start with Gedi, then Schwerin, etc. until something else supersedes this. Should this make it, and be supported also in upcoming years, this could even be a regular feature for ITNR? Khuft (talk) 15:33, 29 July 2024 (UTC)

  ITNR would be a lovely idea. However, I don't see how you can vote support when there's so little prose. Bremps... 16:46, 29 July 2024 (UTC)

  I really like this idea; could be an excellent way to show off a bunch of our articles! ~Maplestrip/Mable (chat) 12:03, 30 July 2024 (UTC)

• Oppose on article quality. No stand alone article and in the linked page there is no prose, just tables. I'm not opposed on principle. But we need something with meat on it if we are going to be promoting this on the main page. -Ad Orientem (talk) 15:52, 29 July 2024 (UTC)
• Oppose on quality as there's zero prose. Will support when fixed. The Kip ^(contribs) 18:05, 29 July 2024 (UTC)
• Support in principle, with no comment on article quality as I haven't looked over any of them yet. I've added a second altblurb for consideration. Kurtis ^(talk) 18:11, 29 July 2024 (UTC)
• Oppose on quality I could see us posting this every year, but if the article has no prose, it simply can't be posted. Gödel2200 (talk) 20:16, 29 July 2024 (UTC)
• Oppose for tabularity and because most sections start with numerals (ending without periods). InedibleHulk (talk) 21:35, 29 July 2024 (UTC)
• Oppose but suggest transferring to featured list This post was made by orbitalbuzzsaw gang (talk) 22:13, 29 July 2024 (UTC)

  You've been around long enough to know that "toss to x section" is an extremely poor argument. Curbon7 (talk) 01:06, 30 July 2024 (UTC)

• Oppose I really want to support given coverage of this has raised my spirits amongst everything else, but per The KIP and Ad Orientem we've declined much more urgent and pressing news in the past due to similar article quality and lack of prose. Schwinnspeed (talk) 02:08, 30 July 2024 (UTC)
• Oppose. This seemingly happens every year and there's nothing particularly remarkable about this one, particularly as we're not highlighting any of them in particular. Incremental statistics are rarely good ITN material. Obviously would need to address the lack of prose too to be even considered.  — Amakuru (talk) 05:22, 30 July 2024 (UTC)
• Comment: Would it help to add some prose introduction to the Committee session in the article? Or rather integrate it in the World Heritage Committee article as an individual section that can be updated for every new session when new entries are publicly announced? :) Greetings, Horst-schlaemma (talk) 10:04, 30 July 2024 (UTC)
• Always cool, but there is no prose update! The section is just a table and that's it. ~Maplestrip/Mable (chat) 12:02, 30 July 2024 (UTC)
• Oppose Absolutely no article would ever get posted if the only update to it was a table with no prose whatsoever attached, and this should not be an exception. -- Kicking222 (talk) 13:54, 30 July 2024 (UTC)

Venezuelan presidential election

Article: 2024 Venezuelan presidential election (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ Nicolás Maduro is announced as the winner of the 2024 Venezuelan presidential election. (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ In Venezuela, incumbent President Nicolás Maduro is declared the winner of the presidential election.
Alternative blurb II: ​ Incumbent Nicolás Maduro is re-elected President of Venezuela for a third term.
Alternative blurb III: ​ After disputed presidential elections, protests erupt in Venezuela.
News source(s): NY Times BBC News
Credits:

• Nominated by Rockstone35 (talk · give credit)

Article updated
The nominated event is listed on WP:ITN/R, so each occurrence is presumed to be important enough to post. Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article and update meet WP:ITNCRIT, not the significance.

Nicolás Maduro has been announced the winner of the 2024 election. -- Rockstone^{Send me a message!} 04:42, 29 July 2024 (UTC)

• Support "Who gets the most votes means nothing. Who counts the votes, means everything" Joseph Stalin -Ad Orientem (talk) 04:50, 29 July 2024 (UTC)

Not Ready As noted by others, the article has a number of issues that will require some work before this can be posted. -Ad Orientem (talk) 14:35, 29 July 2024 (UTC)

• Support ALTBLURB with "declared winner" language used for dubious elections This post was made by orbitalbuzzsaw gang (talk) 04:59, 29 July 2024 (UTC)
• Support alt disappointing. Yoblyblob (Talk) :) 05:19, 29 July 2024 (UTC)
• Oppose blurb language used and oppose for citations needed - I caution users to tame their chauvinism. Western media is very obviously biased on this matter. For decades, the West has sought regime change in this nation and election after election we see the West attempt to discredit elections in socialist countries in the Global South. It is frankly disgusting that Wikipedia is joining in this rather than critically assessing our sources for reliability. How many times must we watch as the US manufactures consent for a coup before we realize that we can't trust most US sources on this issue. --- C&C (Coffeeandcrumbs) 05:32, 29 July 2024 (UTC)

Really? The second citation is British.... not American. --Rockstone^{Send me a message!} 05:39, 29 July 2024 (UTC)

You are funny if you think that makes difference. --- C&C (Coffeeandcrumbs) 05:58, 29 July 2024 (UTC)

With all due respect, it's outrageous to refer to the BBC as a "US source", and it makes you look very bad. Honestly, your entire comment is outrageous and doesn't serve to help the project in any manner. You should consider striking it. --Rockstone^{Send me a message!} 15:30, 29 July 2024 (UTC)

Regardless of the authenticity of the election, these discussion pages are not meant to be used to petty bickering. We will use the source deemed most reliable, and whether or not it fits with your stance on the subject, be it politically or as an external perspective/opinion, is not to be taken into consideration. Let's do our best not to become Reddit, thank you. Daneellis114 (talk) 23:26, 29 July 2024 (UTC)

Yeah best to close the discussion here PrecariousWorlds (talk) 10:31, 30 July 2024 (UTC)

For about the 50th time in the last month to various users, personal commentary doesn’t help this project. The Kip ^(contribs) 06:39, 29 July 2024 (UTC)

This was objectively a sham election by all reliable accounts apart from the Maduro regime, stop pushing POV. PrecariousWorlds (talk) 11:50, 29 July 2024 (UTC)

Do you have any independent sources to back up your entire comment? If not, you yourself are guilty of pushing a pro-Maduro POV. Tube·of·Light 14:06, 29 July 2024 (UTC)

The BBC is not a reliable source but the Venezuelan regime somehow is PrecariousWorlds (talk) 18:56, 29 July 2024 (UTC)

Um, hate to be that guy, but countering chauvinism or "chauvinism" with what presents as chauvinism itself isn't helpful. DarkSide830 (talk) 15:05, 29 July 2024 (UTC)

• Support altblurb with "declared" due to the dispute. Article seems well written and cited. The C of E God Save the King! (talk) 05:45, 29 July 2024 (UTC)
• Support the original blurb unless evidence of fraud emerges (which it may, of course) PtolemyXV (talk) 05:48, 29 July 2024 (UTC)
• Support altblurb, it’s not just “the west” disputing the results but the opposition themselves. The Kip ^(contribs) 06:38, 29 July 2024 (UTC)
• Oppose The proposed blurbs don't adequately convey the phony nature of the process. And the article is in a poor state with a lot of rambling, citations needed and tense errors. Andrew🐉(talk) 09:08, 29 July 2024 (UTC)
  • Repeatedly has been shown tht we're not going to try to call out sham elections or their ilk at ITN. We can use language how we say who won that implies that it was not democratic win, like we have done for the last Russian election, but it becomes a NPOV problem to suggest in the ITN blurb if the election is a sham; that's a topic left for the article in question. — Masem (t) 11:59, 29 July 2024 (UTC)

    That's nonsense because numerous editors have supported the alt blurb as a standard signal to the reader that the election was not free and fair. So, we do regularly call out such sham elections in that way but it's too subtle -- we should be more direct rather than dropping hints.

    In any case, there are still the quality issues which are not resolved.

    Andrew🐉(talk) 20:21, 29 July 2024 (UTC)

Oppose article has two cn tags, two orange tags, one yellow tag and result section is empty. Therefore, it is no way near ready to be posted. I support the Alt Blurb when it is ready to be psoted. PrinceofPunjab^TALK 11:13, 29 July 2024 (UTC)

• Oppose on quality, but support alt when ready. Gödel2200 (talk) 13:25, 29 July 2024 (UTC)
• Oppose those and any blurb that does not acknowledge the denounces of electoral fraud, which are a relevant news topic in themselves. Cambalachero (talk) 15:26, 29 July 2024 (UTC)
  • Support ALT3 Cambalachero (talk) 02:20, 31 July 2024 (UTC)
• Support once the article is well ready and meets quality standards. --cyrfaw (talk) 17:59, 29 July 2024 (UTC)
• Comment Are we sure this is WP:ITN/R? There was no change in administration. Staraction (talk | contribs) 19:50, 29 July 2024 (UTC)

  This falls under "The results of general elections in: All states on the list of sovereign states". Howard the Duck (talk) 19:54, 29 July 2024 (UTC)

Actually, elections for the executive where there is no change in office are now also ITNR, per this discussion. Gödel2200 (talk) 20:24, 29 July 2024 (UTC)

• Oppose There are multiple orange tags, and the endorsements section is missing a lot of citations. Will support the alt when ready. Gödel2200 (talk) 20:37, 29 July 2024 (UTC)
• Wait The National Electoral Council (Venezuela) has been offline and/or has a DNS problem since at least the last day or so, although some archived snapshots e.g. 28 July are available. As of the 2010s and 2020s, the electoral results coordinated by any national election commission, except for the internet-poorest countries, are normally published in full detail on the commission's website. Whether the reason for the website non-availability is attacks such as DDOS or tech incompetence or a desire to hide the results, the fact is that by the current standards of a national election, the results in the sense of open data are not yet published. There is currently only a "believe-us" XXth century style "result" announced by the CNE so far. The heads of many American states, such as Gabriel Boric, are putting pressure on the CNE to get the full results published. Waiting for a more serious release of the full results would make sense. Boud (talk) 21:05, 29 July 2024 (UTC)
• Wait Along the lines of what Boud said, in lay terms, the election result hasn't actually been called, Maduro has just said he's won. The opposition has not conceded, there are no results to show (some apparently have fully gone missing) - the last update from even Maduro's own commission is that vote counts will be coming soon. Kingsif (talk) 21:12, 29 July 2024 (UTC)

Oppose For now, as the results themselves are still unavailable in the article. Granted, the results aren't gonna be super shocking. Dyaquna (talk) 22:35, 29 July 2024 (UTC)

Oppose Reliable sources are essentially unanimous in describing the election as neither free or fair. Therefore, Maduro being declared the winner is about as surprising as "water is wet". KlayCax (talk) 00:03, 30 July 2024 (UTC)

• Wait There should be something, however it ought to mention the dispute. This is major news.

Metallurgist (talk) 01:38, 30 July 2024 (UTC)

• Update of blurb needed: While waiting for the CNE to announce the full results, the 2024 Venezuelan protests (probably not the best name, since there were probably other protests in Venezuela in 2024) are already 11 kb of source text just 5 hours after being created, so should be integrated into the blurb. Things could change fast depending on if/when the CNE publishes the full results or continues to refuse to publish them, so further updates might be needed. Boud (talk) 01:47, 30 July 2024 (UTC)
  • I agree, and had actually just come here to suggest much the same. —Cryptic 01:54, 30 July 2024 (UTC)

  Suggest nominating the protests as their own blurb. If the photo can be confirmed as free, it's also really good to go in the box. Kingsif (talk) 02:20, 30 July 2024 (UTC)

Oppose because the election is dispute, protests are ongoing, and there are multiple orange tags. JohnAdams1800 (talk) 02:59, 30 July 2024 (UTC)

• Oppose unless the blurb states clearly that it was rigged and that it sparked massive protests. Plus, the article has certain problems. If these are solved, take this one as a support. --Bedivere (talk) 06:03, 30 July 2024 (UTC)

• We don't write personal opinions in Wikivoice, especially on the front page. Also, see 2024 Rwandan general election. Black Kite (talk) 09:19, 30 July 2024 (UTC)

• Support altblurb2. That thing with words like "announced" or "declared" in dubious elections simply doesn't work, and I don't think our readers get the difference that a group of editors here wants to convey. Simply use "re-elected" and let the readers visit the article to find out the details. All winners are "announced" or "declared" no matter if the election was free and fair.--Kiril Simeonovski (talk) 08:58, 30 July 2024 (UTC)

  Most readers don't click through to the article. The main page gets about 5 million views daily but the number of readers that click though ITN links is only about 10K -- a tiny fraction. So, most readers will glance at or skim the main page and will just see the headline and the grinning picture of the tyrant/dictator/president-for-life. So, we should make the headline plain and clear if we run one because that's all most readers will see. Andrew🐉(talk) 09:27, 30 July 2024 (UTC)

  Why do you think that "announced" or "declared" makes it clear that the winner is a dictator or that the election was not free and fair? Why not extend the blurb to say that "X was re-elected in a dubious election"?--Kiril Simeonovski (talk) 09:39, 30 July 2024 (UTC)

  The result is disputed; for example, see Venezuelan opposition says it has proof its candidate defeated President Maduro in disputed election. In such circumstances of claim and counter-claim, it's not our job to pick a winner. All we might say currently is that there is unrest following a disputed election. Andrew🐉(talk) 10:18, 30 July 2024 (UTC)

  I agree that the protests should be the main story now. My point was that the words "announced" or "declared" wouldn't make any difference. If we post that Maduro was "announced winner", we practically accept the announcement of the National Electoral Council, so we practically side with them and pick Maduro as winner. Note that the opposition rejects outright what the National Electoral Council announced as a result of the election.--Kiril Simeonovski (talk) 14:19, 30 July 2024 (UTC)

• Support altblurb2 only when ready. We posted the 2024 Rwandan general election using the "re-elected" wording despite that election being even more dubious than this one. Black Kite (talk) 09:17, 30 July 2024 (UTC)

Comment. Since the focus is now on protests, I suggest alternative blurb:

After disputed presidential elections, protests erupt in Venezuela. BilboBeggins (talk) 12:40, 30 July 2024 (UTC)

This is a good blurb, but the article quality for the protests is not there yet. Gödel2200 (talk) 13:07, 30 July 2024 (UTC)

The sources do not currently show which is more notable: the election or the protests, so putting both in bold would be better justified. Boud (talk) 13:15, 30 July 2024 (UTC)

I agree with this, but both articles currently are not of sufficient quality. So if one is improved before the other, we could just make that the target to start out. Gödel2200 (talk) 14:11, 30 July 2024 (UTC)

• Support Well referenced and article fixed now. MAL MALDIVE (talk) 14:27, 30 July 2024 (UTC)
• Support altblurb3 Article infobox makes no claim of a winner, lede claims both are self-proclaimed winners. Peter Njeim (talk) 17:41, 30 July 2024 (UTC)
• Support altblurb3 so a NPOV stance is mantained and the disputed nature of the election is highlighted. CVDX (talk) 22:03, 30 July 2024 (UTC)

July 28

Portal:Current events/2024 July 28

July 28, 2024 (2024-07-28) (Sunday) Armed conflicts and attacks Israel–Hezbollah conflict Majdal Shams attack Several nations, including the United States, Australia and multiple European nations, release travel advisories urging all their citizens not to travel to Lebanon, and for those residing there to leave as soon as possible in anticipation of an Israeli attack against Hezbollah. (Anadolu Ajansı) Business and economy Foreign relations of Malaysia Malaysia formally applies to become a member of the BRICS economic bloc and geopolitical organization. (Anadolu Ajansi) Disasters and accidents 2024 Pacific typhoon season Typhoon Gaemi Fifteen people are killed and six others are injured by a landslide caused by remnants of Typhoon Gaemi in Hengyang, Hunan, China. (AP) 2024 California wildfires The Park Fire in California, United States, spreads to more than 350,000 acres, with at least 134 structures being destroyed by the wildfires. (NBC News) 2024 Manila Bay oil spill The Philippine Coast Guard finds and seals diesel fuel cargo leaks from MTKR Jason Bradley, the second vessel to sink in Manila Bay in one week, following MT Terra Nova's sinking. (Philippine Daily Inquirer) 2024 Sudan floods, Sudanese refugee crisis At least twelve people are killed by extensive flooding throughout Kassala State in eastern Sudan that submerged several internal displacement camps. (ILKHA) International relations Russia–United States relations, Germany–Russia relations Russian President Vladimir Putin threatens to position long-range missiles that could strike throughout Europe following the United States's announcement of plans to set up long-range missiles in Germany beginning in 2026. (Reuters) Politics and elections 2024 Venezuelan presidential election Venezuelans vote to elect their president. Incumbent Nicolás Maduro is standing for reelection for a third consecutive term. (BBC News) Incumbent President Nicolás Maduro is declared the winner of the Venezuelan 2024 presidential election by the National Electoral Council. Opposition parties claim that there are irregularities in the election results. (AP) The National Electoral Council announces that, with 80% of the ballots counted, Maduro's 7-point lead is "striking and irreversible". (BBC) Sports 2024 Summer Olympics Canada at the 2024 Summer Olympics Eleanor Harvey wins a bronze medal in fencing at the 2024 Olympics, making it the first medal Canada has ever won in fencing. (TSN) France at the 2024 Summer Olympics Léon Marchand wins 400m medley and broke the olympics record that was held by the American swimmer Michael Phelps. (The Guardian) Moldova at the 2024 Summer Olympics Denis Vieru wins the bronze medal in judo, making it the first medal Moldova has ever won in the sport. (HotNews) South Korea at the 2024 Summer Olympics The South Korean women's archery team wins its tenth consecutive Olympic gold medal after beating the Chinese team in a tiebreaker that required a magnifying glass to determine the final score. (AP) 2024 All-Ireland Senior Football Championship In Gaelic football, the All-Ireland Senior Football Championship concludes with Armagh defeating Galway in the final. (The Irish Times)

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RD: Alma Powell

Article: Alma Powell (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): CNN
Credits:

• Nominated by 240F:7A:6253:1:113:A09D:C0B3:2CBF (talk · give credit)
• Updated by TurboChargedChiliPepper (talk · give credit) and Sunshineisles2 (talk · give credit)

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

American audiologist. 240F:7A:6253:1:113:A09D:C0B3:2CBF (talk) 06:39, 30 July 2024 (UTC)

• Oppose Needs more citations. Scientia potentia est, MonarchOfTerror 11:35, 30 July 2024 (UTC)

RD: Francine Pascal

Article: Francine Pascal (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): People, New York Times
Credits:

• Nominated by 240F:7A:6253:1:113:A09D:C0B3:2CBF (talk · give credit)
• Updated by Nohomersryan (talk · give credit) and Sunshineisles2 (talk · give credit)

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

American author and creator of Sweet Valley High series. 240F:7A:6253:1:113:A09D:C0B3:2CBF (talk) 06:18, 30 July 2024 (UTC)

• Oppose Article is orange tagged for expansion and is a bit short. Scientia potentia est, MonarchOfTerror 11:34, 30 July 2024 (UTC)
• Comment I've expanded the article out a bit; I don't think there are any unsourced statements anymore, but it's definitely still on the shorter side. I would add that the "sources" section, which seems to awkwardly combine a bibliography and a reference list, does not seem appropriate for the article in its current form and the bibliography side of it is basically unsourced, as it has no ISBNs or anything of the like.--Sunshineisles2 (talk) 14:23, 30 July 2024 (UTC)

RD: Doug Creek

Article: Doug Creek (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): [2]
Credits:

• Nominated by 240F:7A:6253:1:7072:B26A:4473:10DD (talk · give credit)
• Updated by GhostRiver (talk · give credit)

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

American baseball player. 240F:7A:6253:1:7072:B26A:4473:10DD (talk) 06:56, 29 July 2024 (UTC)

Oppose article has only three sources, needs more citations. PrinceofPunjab^TALK 11:16, 29 July 2024 (UTC)

RD: Reyes Moronta

Article: Reyes Moronta (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): [3]
Credits:

• Updated and nominated by Muboshgu (talk · give credit)
• Updated by GhostRiver (talk · give credit)

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

– Muboshgu (talk) 04:19, 29 July 2024 (UTC)

Support article is in a good shape. PrinceofPunjab^TALK 11:17, 29 July 2024 (UTC)

• Support Article is good enough for RD. Scientia potentia est, MonarchOfTerror 16:53, 29 July 2024 (UTC)

(Posted) 2024 All-Ireland Senior Football Championship final

Article: 2024 All-Ireland Senior Football Championship final (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ In Gaelic football, the All-Ireland Senior Football Championship concludes with Armagh defeating Galway in the final. (Post)
News source(s): (The Irish Times)
Credits:

• Updated and nominated by Goevenonme (talk · give credit)
• Created by Sheila1988 (talk · give credit)
• Updated by Edl-irishboy (talk · give credit), INgIEroC (talk · give credit), Warrioruzi 7 (talk · give credit) and Jacinta Fraser (talk · give credit)

Article updated
The nominated event is listed on WP:ITN/R, so each occurrence is presumed to be important enough to post. Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article and update meet WP:ITNCRIT, not the significance.

Goevenonme (talk) 00:40, 29 July 2024 (UTC)

• Support - Well-written and in-depth article, don’t see any issues. The Kip ^(contribs) 03:06, 29 July 2024 (UTC)

Support article looks good enough to be posted. PrinceofPunjab^TALK 11:18, 29 July 2024 (UTC)

• Support - good article, significant sporting event.

IrishRealistic (talk) 18:34, 29 July 2024 (UTC)

• Support The article has a good amount of prose about the final. Gödel2200 (talk) 20:44, 29 July 2024 (UTC)
• Posted. Black Kite (talk) 08:08, 30 July 2024 (UTC)

RD: John Anderson

Article: John Anderson (television personality) (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): The Guardian
Credits:

• Updated and nominated by The C of E (talk · give credit)

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

UK Gladiators referee and British Olympic coach. The C of E God Save the King! (talk) 21:32, 28 July 2024 (UTC)

Support meets bare minimum requirement. PrinceofPunjab^TALK 11:19, 29 July 2024 (UTC)

• Weak support DoB is cn tagged and also the infobox includes his spouses but it isn't anywhere in the prose nor is it sourced, so that info should be added to prose and sourced or excised from the infobox. Otherwise article looks fine. Scientia potentia est, MonarchOfTerror 16:51, 29 July 2024 (UTC)

  Cited DOB and birthplace. Curbon7 (talk) 01:15, 30 July 2024 (UTC)

RD: Prince Michael of Greece and Denmark

Article: Prince Michael of Greece and Denmark (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Sky News, The Independent, and others.
Credits:

• Nominated by Therealscorp1an (talk · give credit)
• Updated by 2a02:587:cc2b:5b00:5043:807d:3ff5:97ca (talk · give credit)

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

He was a member of the former Greek royal family, a writer, a historian, a first cousin of Prince Philip and the last surviving great-grandson of Christian IX. - Therealscorp1an (talk) 22:44, 28 July 2024 (UTC)

• Support I have added a cite for the CN tags so it should be all ready to go now. The C of E God Save the King! (talk) 05:51, 29 July 2024 (UTC)

Wait List of works section needs more sources. PrinceofPunjab^TALK 11:21, 29 July 2024 (UTC)

July 27

Portal:Current events/2024 July 27

July 27, 2024 (2024-07-27) (Saturday) Armed conflicts and attacks Israel–Hezbollah conflict Majdal Shams attack Twelve people, all children, are killed in rocket strikes on the Druze village of Majdal Shams in the Israeli-occupied Golan Heights. Israel claims that Hezbollah is responsible for the attack, but Hezbollah denies any involvement. (Reuters) Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu vows that Hezbollah will "pay a heavy price" which "it has not paid so far" in response to the attack. (Barron's) Russian invasion of Ukraine 2024 Ukrainian cyberattacks against Russia Hackers from the Ministry of Defense of Ukraine escalate "massive" cyberattacks on Russia's largest banks, prohibiting any cash or credit transactions. Cyberattacks also target Russian public transport systems, internet and mobile providers, and social networks. (Kyiv Post) Russian forces capture the village of Lozovatske in Donetsk Oblast. (Anadolu Agency) Israel–Hamas war Israeli invasion of the Gaza Strip More than fifty people, including fifteen children, are killed in Israeli attacks on a school used to shelter displaced people in Deir al-Balah in the Gaza Strip. (Al Jazeera) Mali War Battle of Tinzaouaten Mali's Tuareg coalition CSP-PSD claimed to have killed and wounded dozens of Malian Armed Forces soldiers and Wagner Group mercenaries on the outskirts of Tinzaouaten. Russian sources said the head of the Wagner-affiliated Grey Zone Telegram channel, which has 560,000 subscribers, died in the battle. The status of Wagner Group leader Anton Yelizarov is currently unknown. (VOA) Sudanese civil war At least 22 people are killed and 75 others are injured in a Rapid Support Forces attack on Al-Fashir, North Darfur, Sudan. (Reuters) Arts and culture The ancient Roman Appian Way, the oldest Roman road which began construction in 312 B.C., is added to the UNESCO World Heritage List. (AP) Disasters and accidents Seven people are killed and others injured after a stampede during a concert at the Stade des Martyrs stadium in Kinshasa, Democratic Republic of the Congo. (AP) Health and environment Iran orders all government offices and commercial institutions to close tomorrow due to ongoing country-wide heatwaves. (ABC) (Bloomberg) Law and crime Eight people are killed and five others are injured when a vehicle hits pedestrians in Changsha, Hunan, China. The perpetrator is arrested. (AP) Sports 2024 Summer Olympics, Canada Soccer drone spying scandal In response to the spying incident involving the Canada women's national soccer team coaching staff using drones to spy on the New Zealand team, FIFA deducts six points from Canada in the Paris Olympics women's football tournament and bans three coaches for one year, including head coach Bev Priestman. (Al Jazeera) 2024 UEFA Women's Under-19 Championship In association football, Spain defeats the Netherlands 2–1 in the final to win their sixth UEFA Women's Under-19 Championship title. (UEFA)

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RD: Murray Costello

Article: Murray Costello (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Hockey Canada NHL.com
Credits:

• Nominated by MonarchOfTerror (talk · give credit)
• Updated by Rford77 (talk · give credit)

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Canadian ice hockey player, executive, and administrator. Article looks fine. Scientia potentia est, MonarchOfTerror 17:53, 29 July 2024 (UTC)

(Ready) RD: Edna O'Brien

Article: Edna O'Brien (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): The Irish Times
Credits:

• Nominated by Mooonswimmer (talk · give credit)
• Updated by JackofOz (talk · give credit), Moscow Mule (talk · give credit) and Laterthanyouthink (talk · give credit)

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Appears to be well-sourced. Mooonswimmer 18:34, 28 July 2024 (UTC)

• Support Looks to be of sufficient quality. Scientia potentia est, MonarchOfTerror 21:05, 28 July 2024 (UTC)

Ready it is of great quality, marking it ready. PrinceofPunjab^TALK 11:23, 29 July 2024 (UTC)

Majdal Shams attack

Article: Majdal Shams attack (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ A rocket attack allegedly launched by Hezbollah on the Israeli-occupied Golan Heights kills at least 14 civilians. (Post)
News source(s): BBCTimes of IsraelHindustan TimesPress TV IranReutersRussia TodayAl Jazeera
Credits:

• Nominated by 104.171.53.110 (talk · give credit)

Article updated

Current official death toll is at 12 as of time of writing. Although the scale of this attack is dwarfed daily by IDF bombardments of Gaza, I propose that we cover this particular story because:

• It is the single deadliest attack on Israeli civilians since October 7.[4]
• It is the single deadliest spillover incident of the war since inception.
• The attack was carried out in the context of a conflict with Hezbollah, which would make it separate from the Israel-Gaza war itself.
• Attacks by other regional entities (Iran, the Houthis, and Hezbollah itself) have not previously resulted in this number of casualties during the conflict.
• The article is expanded, well-written, and of a suitable length, with no citation needed tags.

For the above reasons, I hereby nominate this entry.

• Support as nom. 104.171.53.110 (talk) 08:55, 28 July 2024 (UTC)
• Oppose for now. This is covered by ongoing, or should be, because it’s part of a wave of attacks against Israel by Iranian proxies, and the ensuing counterattacks by Israel. Jehochman ^Talk 09:44, 28 July 2024 (UTC)
• Oppose, covered by ongoing as direct spillover of the war. Also, if we specifically post attacks killing Israeli civilians but not those killing Palestinian civilians, we'll be having a pretty big NPOV issue on the main page. Chaotic Enby (talk · contribs) 10:39, 28 July 2024 (UTC)

Wait - Posting this may be a problem as pointed out above, as it naturally invites comparisons to civilian casualties in Gaza (though this could be considered more notable as there are less Israeli civilian deaths, it's still a POV problem). I think it's best to wait to see what the Israeli response is; if this escalates the conflict with Hezbollah it's definitely enough to post, but until then Oppose PrecariousWorlds (talk) 12:37, 28 July 2024 (UTC)

• Oppose This is covered by ongoing unless Israel responds in a major way. Gödel2200 (talk) 13:00, 28 July 2024 (UTC)

  Not really. If it were a strike by the Palestinians, sure, but this was a strike by Hezbollah. This incident falls under the Israel-Hezbollah war, which is not in the Ongoing section. Bremps... 16:49, 29 July 2024 (UTC)

• Oppose per above (covered in ongoing), but particularly in light of what Chaotic Enby has said about the neutrality here. --Masem (t) 13:08, 28 July 2024 (UTC)
• Oppose as covered by the war, but also recommend speedy close due to WP:ECR. IPs aren’t allowed to nominate things like this. The Kip ^(contribs) 16:54, 28 July 2024 (UTC)

  @ScottishFinnishRadish, pinging for your opinion re: ECR closing here. The Kip ^(contribs) 22:56, 28 July 2024 (UTC)

  Yeah, this isn't an edit request, it's a submission to an internal process. At this point we're past closing, though. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 23:05, 28 July 2024 (UTC)

• In general I would support this, along with routine killings of civilians in Gaza. Both are significant and should be posted whether or not we have the ongoing Israel-Hamas war.VR _{(Please ping on reply)} 20:35, 28 July 2024 (UTC)
• Oppose covered by ongoing. Also, Victims section is sort of unorthodox on Wikipedia and I think fails WP:MOS. PrinceofPunjab^TALK 11:25, 29 July 2024 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Wolfgang Rihm

Article: Wolfgang Rihm (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Yahoo
Credits:

• Nominated by Natg 19 (talk · give credit)
• Updated by Grimes2 (talk · give credit) and Gerda Arendt (talk · give credit)

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Needs work, maybe the "works" section could be split out? Natg 19 (talk) 23:57, 27 July 2024 (UTC)

 Done Grimes2 (talk) 08:04, 28 July 2024 (UTC)

• No, we don't move content out so that it doesn't have to be referenced. Stephen 11:59, 28 July 2024 (UTC)

  But the reference to the publisher of Rihm's works includes the works. Grimes2 (talk) 12:47, 28 July 2024 (UTC)

  Bibliographies, lists of compositions, albums, etc. are common in biography articles. voorts (talk/contributions) 17:06, 28 July 2024 (UTC)

  Whoops, I didn't realize that there was a reference at first. But either way, the article looks cleaner with it moved out, as the list of 500 works does make the article unwieldy. Natg 19 (talk) 17:24, 28 July 2024 (UTC)

  Yeah, that's an appropriate WP:WHENSPLIT. Ed ^{[talk] [OMT]} 03:44, 29 July 2024 (UTC)

• Support Article ok and well sourced. Grimes2 (talk) 14:10, 29 July 2024 (UTC)
• Support Article looks fine. Scientia potentia est, MonarchOfTerror 16:46, 29 July 2024 (UTC)
• Comment: I just started updating, and am too tired for more today. Had to work on last-minute violinist who needs attention today, look for Dahn who updated. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:48, 29 July 2024 (UTC)
• Support, nice work you two. I'm considering trying to take this article to GA over the next few weeks... although many of the many bios are hard to access, it seems. – Aza24 (talk) 01:21, 30 July 2024 (UTC)
• Posted. --PFHLai (talk) 12:38, 30 July 2024 (UTC)

July 26

Portal:Current events/2024 July 26

July 26, 2024 (2024-07-26) (Friday) Disasters and accidents 2024 Gillette Pilatus PC-12 crash A plane crashes in Campbell County, Wyoming, United States, just north of Gillette, starting a wildfire and killing all seven people onboard, including three members of the gospel group The Nelons. (WSB-TV) International relations China–India relations, Sino-Indian border dispute China and India agree to cooperate in withdrawing all their troops from their disputed border, with aims of peacefully achieving "complete disengagement" from the border conflict as quickly as possible. (AP) European Union–Russia relations, International sanctions during the Russian invasion of Ukraine The European Union sends its first transfer of €1.5 billion (US$1.63 billion) in proceeds from frozen Russian assets to Ukraine for military and infrastructure support. The Kremlin denounces the transfer as "illegal" under international law and pledges legal retaliation. (AP) (Reuters) Finland–Russia relations Finland reports that a Russian Navy Baltic Sea fleet vessel trespassed on Finnish territorial waters in the eastern Gulf of Finland. (Reuters) Italy–Syria relations Italy appoints an ambassador to Syria after 12 years, becoming the first G7 country to do so. (Reuters) Philippines–United States relations, ChinaAngVirus disinformation campaign A former top United States official states that the Department of Defense covertly admits to conducting a mass disinformation campaign targeting the Philippines using social media bots and fake accounts to discredit the safety of Chinese CoronaVac vaccinations during the COVID-19 pandemic, following public denial of involvement in June. (Reuters) Law and crime 2024 France railway arson attacks Arson attacks on TGV infrastructure disrupt rail services in France. (The Guardian) International Criminal Court investigation in Palestine The United Kingdom drops its challenge to the International Criminal Court's issuance of arrest warrants against Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and Defense Minister Yoav Gallant. (Reuters) Israel–Hezbollah conflict U.S. President Joe Biden adds Lebanon to the Deferred Enforced Departure list, temporarily protecting Lebanese citizens residing in the United States from deportation for 18 months, in response to growing tensions between Israel and Hezbollah in southern Lebanon. (Detroit Free Press) Former BBC news presenter Huw Edwards is charged with making child pornography. (The Guardian) Sports 2024 Summer Olympics The opening ceremonies of the 2024 Summer Olympics take place on the banks of the River Seine and the Jardins du Trocadéro in Paris, France. (NBC News)

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RD: Lionel Elika Fatupaito

Article: Lionel Elika Fatupaito (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): New York Post, New Strait Times, CBS News, ESPN, Daily Mail, The New York Times, The Independent, The Times of India
Credits:

• Nominated by KjjjKjjj (talk · give credit)

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

• Oppose - article created today, and as I cannot find any sourcing on him apart from the reports of his death, I have sent the article to AfD. Black Kite (talk) 14:04, 29 July 2024 (UTC)

RD: Janet Andrewartha

Article: Janet Andrewartha (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): [5], [6]
Credits:

• Nominated by Happily888 (talk · give credit)
• Updated by HungryReptile (talk · give credit) and Mohamad Darilin (talk · give credit)

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

 Happily888 (talk) 07:44, 28 July 2024 (UTC)

• Oppose Filmography is mostly unsourced, and the source for the stage section doesn't cover everything listed there. Scientia potentia est, MonarchOfTerror 20:52, 28 July 2024 (UTC)

Oppose unsourced Filmography. PrinceofPunjab^TALK 11:26, 29 July 2024 (UTC)

2024 France railway arson attacks

Article: 2024 France railway arson attacks (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ A series of arson attacks damages several lines of the French high-speed railway system. (Post)
News source(s): NYT
Credits:

• Updated by WikiCamael (talk · give credit) and ElijahPepe (talk · give credit)

_pbp 20:44, 26 July 2024 (UTC)

Support - I think it's best to have this as a separate blurb as the attacks haven't been linked to the Olympics (though they likely were related). In the news PrecariousWorlds (talk) 21:04, 26 July 2024 (UTC)

• Oppose on quality - nowhere near long enough, and half the content are reactions that either can be better integrated into a response (eg the transportation head talking about delays) or are just "hopes and prayers"-type nonsense we shouldn't include. --Masem (t) 21:49, 26 July 2024 (UTC)
• Oppose independently, neutral combined — No fatal consequences, though this is clearly significant. elijahpepe@wikipedia (he/him) 22:08, 26 July 2024 (UTC)
• Support notable terrorist (?) attack This post was made by orbitalbuzzsaw gang (talk) 22:09, 26 July 2024 (UTC)
• Oppose as these attacks only damaged several lines of the railway system without any casualties or severe disruptions. I'm strongly against combining this with the opening ceremony as it had low impact on that event.--Kiril Simeonovski (talk) 22:12, 26 July 2024 (UTC)
• Oppose per Kiril. Article is also quite short. The Kip ^(contribs) 22:28, 26 July 2024 (UTC)

  For those of you, such as @Masem saying "but the article is short"...is it complete though? _pbp 23:17, 26 July 2024 (UTC)

  If the article is complete in its current state, then it simply isn't enough for the front page. The Kip ^(contribs) 23:36, 26 July 2024 (UTC)

  To me, it looks comparable to the example new article shown at WP:ITNUPDATE, or at worst very close to enough. —Cryptic 00:08, 27 July 2024 (UTC)

  That incident also killed almost 20 people, and injured over 70. Not sure if it’d get posted today anyways - keep in mind standards were a bit more lax a decade ago. The Kip ^(contribs) 02:05, 27 July 2024 (UTC)

  I'd thought it was an article quality argument I was countering. I agree there's a wider difference in significance. —Cryptic 19:19, 27 July 2024 (UTC)

• Oppose Notable-ish but no one was killed or injured and I don't think it's significant enough to be posted

Personisinsterest (talk) 22:35, 26 July 2024 (UTC)

• Oppose. There is no reason to be linking to a useless, poorly written article about a few arsons when we have an actual article about the transportation that needs to be expanded. The whole point of Wikipedia is to provide summarized information in context, not to rewrite blow-by-blow accounts of each random thing separately every time you refresh the website of the New York Times. Will switch to support if this is redone as an update to Wikipedia content to reflect current events as ITN posts are supposed to be. And as a side note, it would be great if the closer could disregard any !votes about casualties since that's not a metric of significance on Wikipedia. Thebiguglyalien (talk) 23:03, 26 July 2024 (UTC)

  If we're talking disregarding votes, maybe yours should be disregarded because you're using it as a soapbox to complain about the condition of a different article _pbp 03:42, 27 July 2024 (UTC)

  Then you may wish to reread what I said. The only time I mentioned another article was when I suggested a merge target for this one. Thebiguglyalien (talk) 04:19, 27 July 2024 (UTC)

  This is not some random accident like a landslide in the boondocks. It's multiple synchronised attacks targeting significant infrastructure of a major nation. It is thus comparable with the attacks on the Nord Stream pipelines or the 9-11 attacks in the US. It seems to have been scheduled for the start of the Olympics but its impact goes beyond that as this is the start of the French holiday season when much of the country plans to travel. Andrew🐉(talk) 07:52, 27 July 2024 (UTC)

It is thus comparable with the attacks on the Nord Stream pipelines or the 9-11 attacks in the US. What? An attack with no casualties is comparable to an attack with thousands of casualties that led to the War on terror? Gödel2200 (talk) 12:34, 27 July 2024 (UTC)

If you're referring to Ethiopia when you say "the boondocks", that doesn't make what's happening there insignificant Dyaquna (talk) 15:27, 27 July 2024 (UTC)

The point is that the sabotage was not a "random thing" or Act of God. It was a coordinated attack in multiple locations. As these things go, it's quite unusual for there to be a synchronised attack in so many locations. 9-11 targeted three locations while this attack targeted five. Andrew🐉(talk) 07:24, 28 July 2024 (UTC)

• Support halting services for over 800K people feels quite notable to me. This is quite a large attack, regardless of the lack of casualties. I understand the Crowdstrike incident is on a way grander scale than this will ever be, but as it is still an event that caused a halting on travel systems, we didn't stop that from being posted from a lack of deaths or injuries. CaptainGalaxy 23:04, 26 July 2024 (UTC)
• Oppose The attack has no casualties, and the article does not indicate that the impact is incredibly severe. In fact, the only 'impact' listed in the impact section was the British PM having to change his plans. Also the article is barely more than a stub. Gödel2200 (talk) 23:52, 26 July 2024 (UTC)
• Support It's a common lead headline today: "Olympics sabotaged ... Hunt for Olympic saboteurs ... Far Left suspected ...". The disruption will continue throughout the weekend and its impact is countrywide -- much greater than some single accident such as the plane crash in Nepal. Andrew🐉(talk) 07:27, 27 July 2024 (UTC)
• Support Per Andrew and CaptainGalaxy. Centuries123 (talk) 10:50, 27 July 2024 (UTC)
• Oppose Notable for sure, picked up a lot of coverage initially but doesn't rise to meet many of the secondary principles listed in WP:ITNSIGNIF in my opinion. Kcmastrpc (talk) 12:34, 27 July 2024 (UTC)

Oppose per above. PrinceofPunjab^TALK 11:27, 29 July 2024 (UTC)

• Oppose per previous comments on article quality Schwinnspeed (talk) 02:11, 30 July 2024 (UTC)

Olympic Opening Ceremony

Article: 2024 Summer Olympics (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ In Paris, the opening ceremony of the 2024 Summer Olympics begins. (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ In Paris, the 2024 Summer Olympics open after an arson attack on French railways.
Alternative blurb II: ​ In Paris, the 2024 Summer Olympics open.
Alternative blurb III: ​ In Paris, the 2024 Summer Olympics open.
News source(s): NYT
Credits:

• Nominated by DecafPotato (talk · give credit)

Article updated
The nominated event is listed on WP:ITN/R, so each occurrence is presumed to be important enough to post. Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article and update meet WP:ITNCRIT, not the significance.

Opening ceremony isn't technically done yet, but I figure it's better to get a little ahead now that it's well underway. DecafPotato (talk) 18:16, 26 July 2024 (UTC)

Support but wait. This is certainly a event to report on, but we should wait until the grammatical errors get resolved. MetaTalks (talk) 20:55, 26 July 2024 (UTC)

its technically "open" after Macron declared it open. MetaTalks (talk) 21:12, 26 July 2024 (UTC)

Support, notable and the articles are fine Personisinsterest (talk) 22:37, 26 July 2024 (UTC)

Support alternate blurb, if the arson attacks were connected to the Olympics Dyaquna (talk) 23:35, 26 July 2024 (UTC)

• Oppose I just skimmed a bit of the article and it was nowhere near ready as I immediately noticed several tense and grammatical errors. The article seems to be full of plans which may or may not have actually gone to schedule and it has no reaction or reception section to provide an assessment of what actually happened. Also, as noted below, the news coverage today has focussed on security and sabotage issues such as 2024 France railway arson attack and that seems more interesting. The appalling weather might warrant some attention though. For example,

  Unfortunate that the pre filmed parts of this ceremony were done on a bright, clear day. It is making the jumps from live to video sections jarring in person and presumably on TV too. Rain hammering down now. Worried about the athletes! Three hours of this on a roofless boat and some of them are sleeveless. Going to be a shame to cancel the 100m final because the field was decimated by an outbreak of the sniffles.

I'm still watching and was quite curious about the way they presented "Imagine". I find that we have a remarkably detailed article about piano burning and didn't realise that was a thing. Was that supposed to be the Olympic flame?

And now there's a ghostly horse rider. Curiouser and curiouser... Andrew🐉(talk) 18:50, 26 July 2024 (UTC)

• Oppose I agree with Andrew that to post this without noting the arson attack just prior would be a problem. But that can be fixed in the blurb. However, the opening ceremony article is nowhere close for what we've seen in the past. If we are going to post that arson article, that also needs expansion. Finally, should the quality improvements delay posting the opening ceremony for some time, we still try to go ahead and post the Olympics to ongoing, along with Chronological summary of the 2024 Summer Olympics, but that latter article is mostly unsourced at this point, which is not good either. --Masem (t) 18:47, 26 July 2024 (UTC)

  @Masem and @Andrew Davidson, I've added an alt blurb unbolding the opening ceremony article and adding the arson attack, would that be better? DecafPotato (talk) 19:07, 26 July 2024 (UTC)

  No, the event isn't over yet, we've yet to get the reactions and full news coverage and so it's too soon to finalise a blurb. And my objection was to the quality of the article not the blurb. The nominator hasn't made a single edit to the nominated article and so should be disqualified for a false start. Andrew🐉(talk) 19:31, 26 July 2024 (UTC)

• I'm rather neutral on whether or not the arson needs to be included in the blurb- it's not as if this was a terrorist attack that led to deaths- but either way, the article is in pretty bad shape and is nowhere near ready to be posted. -- Kicking222 (talk) 19:14, 26 July 2024 (UTC)
• Oppose mentioning the arson. The connection to the Games seems dubious at best. DarkSide830 (talk) 19:35, 26 July 2024 (UTC)
• Support and altblurb2 - proposed new blurb without the arson attack, and without bolding the opening ceremony. This post should be about the start of the Paris Olympics. They've started now. Let's post. Main article is fine. The opening ceremony article can be filled up separately, but is not crucial - nobody participates in the Olympics just for the opening ceremony.Khuft (talk) 20:05, 26 July 2024 (UTC)
• Support alt2 Oppose placing the arson attack in the blurb, as it does not seem to have had any effects on the opening ceremony. Currently the article for the opening ceremony has major sourcing issues, but we can instead link to the overall article for the olympics. Gödel2200 (talk) 20:06, 26 July 2024 (UTC)
• Support in principle, but oppose including the arson attacks in the blurb. The opening ceremony took place without any disruptions caused by those attacks (the rain made bigger problems than the attacks). That event should’ve been relevant had it directly affected this one, which is clearly not the case.--Kiril Simeonovski (talk) 21:43, 26 July 2024 (UTC)
• Support ALT2 but oppose on quality. I don't personally believe the arson attacks to be overly significant, and their effects on the games has been minimal outside of transportation delays. All of the said, the Opening Ceremony article is in brutal shape - multiple orange tags and nowhere near enough prose on the events. The Kip ^(contribs) 22:37, 26 July 2024 (UTC)
• Support ALT2 and put it in ongoing when it reaches the bottom. --- C&C (Coffeeandcrumbs) 02:37, 27 July 2024 (UTC)
• There are quite a few sections of tables that lack a single reference. Stephen 03:55, 27 July 2024 (UTC)
  • I did actually look at this but saw that there are one or more references for those tables in the prose ahead of them (like with the venue section). It would be better if those sources could be repeated in the table header or otherwise some position closer to the tables to be clear where the info is coming from, but the sourcing is there. — Masem (t) 12:51, 27 July 2024 (UTC)
• Support Alt3 Opening article has too many problems so let's just not post it. Kcmastrpc (talk) 12:49, 27 July 2024 (UTC)
• Oppose on quality issues (notwithstanding ITNR). Too many CN tags on it. The C of E God Save the King! (talk) 12:53, 27 July 2024 (UTC)
• support it is hugely IN THE NEWS. not to mention the controversy over the transgender stuff, but that's an aside. then the chronology can be in the ongoing.Sportsnut24 (talk) 20:23, 27 July 2024 (UTC)

Support, we've listed the Olympics and world cup several times in the past and there's plenty of coverage of it. No reason not to list it Desfuria (talk) 23:31, 27 July 2024 (UTC)

• I will note that I have already added the Olympics as an ongoing on a temporary basis (as that article is fine, see the ongoing nom below) while there's still debate on the blurb and the quality of the opening ceremonies (which has always been posted in the past, and has always been of high quality, I don't know why this is not at that point by this case). Should we post a blurb, then the ongoing should be temporarily removed then. --Masem (t) 23:46, 27 July 2024 (UTC)
• Question What needs doing at 2024 Summer Olympics opening ceremony to make it post-able? Kingsif (talk) 03:35, 28 July 2024 (UTC)

The orange tags need to get resolved. Many statements and sections are missing sources. Natg 19 (talk) 03:44, 28 July 2024 (UTC)

It pains me to say but Oppose. It should be ready by now, but surprisingly isn't. PrinceofPunjab^TALK 11:28, 29 July 2024 (UTC)

• Altblurb3 - let's not mention the Opening Ceremony then As it seems we won't be able to solve the issues with the opening ceremony article before this gets stale (and, let's face it, it's Monday now - the opening ceremony was on Friday), why not post just the Summer Olympics article itself? That one seems fine, as it's already featured on Ongoing. Khuft (talk) 15:36, 29 July 2024 (UTC)

July 25

Portal:Current events/2024 July 25

July 25, 2024 (2024-07-25) (Thursday) Armed conflicts and attacks Israel–Hamas war A Palestinian governmental body announces that senior Hamas leader Mustafa Muhammad Abu Ara has died in Israeli prison after being arrested in October 2023. (Reuters) Myanmar civil war The Myanmar National Democratic Alliance Army, an ethnic armed organization, claims to have captured Lashio, the location of an important regional military base, and Mogok, the center of the country's gem-mining industry. The country's ruling military junta denies the claims. (AP) (VOA) Business and economy Russian invasion of Ukraine Economic impact of the Russian invasion of Ukraine Fitch Ratings downgrades Ukraine's credit rating from "CC" to "C" due to the country's need to restructure US$20 billion in international bonds to foreign investors, increasing the country's risk of default. (Al Jazeera) Southwest Airlines announces the end to its 53-year open seating policy, starting in 2025. (Reuters) (Good Morning America) Disasters and accidents 2024 Manila Bay oil spill An oil tanker capsizes off the coast of Limay, Bataan, Philippines, killing one person and spilling oil into Manila Bay. (CNBC) At least 21 people are killed during a heat wave in Beni Mellal, Morocco. (NDTV) Health and environment The Brazilian Ministry of Health reports the world's first Oropouche virus deaths of two women in Bahia. (The Telegraph) International relations Israel–Hamas war, Israel–United States relations Israel–Hamas war protests in the United States July 2024 protest in Washington, D.C. The White House and U.S. Vice President Kamala Harris issue statements strongly condemning vandalism and American flag burning during pro-Palestinian and anti-Benjamin Netanyahu protests in Washington, D.C., yesterday, with Harris calling them "despicable acts" by "unpatriotic protesters". (AP) (Politico) U.S. President Joe Biden and Vice President Kamala Harris hold separate meetings with Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu in the White House on the Israel–Hamas war and plans following the conclusion of the war. (NBC News) Law and crime Homelessness in California In the United States, Governor of California Gavin Newsom signs an executive order directing state agencies on how to remove homeless encampments throughout the state. (AP) Human rights in Cambodia Candlelight Party President Teav Vannol is fined 6 billion riel (US$1.5 million) for "defamation" of the current Cambodian government to foreign media following his party being barred from the 2023 general election, which saw the incumbent People's Party win 120 of 125 National Assembly seats. (Reuters) Spanish General Council of the Judiciary blockade The twenty new members of the General Council of the Judiciary are sworn in, putting an end to the institutional crisis that the country's supreme judicial administrative body experienced for five years. (RTVE) The Canada Revenue Agency announces it will revoke the charity status of the Jewish National Fund, stating that the use of its donations to fund the IDF's military infrastructure violates Canadian tax laws. (National Post) Sinaloa Cartel leaders Ismael "El Mayo" Zambada and Joaquín Guzmán López are arrested by agents of the United States Department of Justice in El Paso, Texas. (BBC News) A German man who is sentenced to death in Belarus for photographing Belarusian military sites in Ukraine urges Belarusian president Alexander Lukashenko to pardon him in a television appearance. (DW) Science and technology Life on Mars, Perseverance (rover) NASA's Perseverance rover on Mars finds a rock containing spotted features which are possible fossilized records of microbes, though non-biological processes cannot yet be ruled out. (Space.com)

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RD: Vikramabahu Karunaratne

Article: Vikramabahu Karunaratne (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): BBC
Credits:

• Nominated by Titanciwiki (talk · give credit)

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Sri Lankan politician, activist and scientist. Titanciwiki^talk/contrib 0:58, 26 May 2024 (UTC)

• Weak oppose Some statements in the article lacking a source, also the infobox has the name of his father and mother but it isn't anywhere in the prose. Scientia potentia est, MonarchOfTerror 20:39, 28 July 2024 (UTC)
• Oppose per MonarchOfTerror. PrinceofPunjab^TALK 11:29, 29 July 2024 (UTC)

RD: Martin Indyk

Article: Martin Indyk (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): NY Times
Credits:

• Nominated by Mooonswimmer (talk · give credit)
• Updated by MonarchOfTerror (talk · give credit)

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Mooonswimmer 22:10, 25 July 2024 (UTC)

Oppose three cn tags. PrinceofPunjab^TALK 11:30, 29 July 2024 (UTC)

pertinent to the ongoing news stuff. i dunno if you mention that on these things.Sportsnut24 (talk) 20:25, 27 July 2024 (UTC)

• Oppose I did some work but article still has 3 cn tags that need fixing. Scientia potentia est, MonarchOfTerror 20:36, 28 July 2024 (UTC)

I'd be happy to give a few pointers if you clarify what it is you're confused about. Bremps... 16:52, 29 July 2024 (UTC)

July 24

Portal:Current events/2024 July 24

July 24, 2024 (2024-07-24) (Wednesday) Armed conflicts and attacks Insurgency in the Maghreb Seven security forces and five rangers are killed during an ambush by Islamic extremists at the W National Park in Benin. The park is overrun by the militants. (AP) Arts and culture Polish divers announce that they have discovered a 19th-century shipwreck in the Baltic Sea off the coast of Sweden, containing crates of champagne and porcelain. (France 24) Business and economy The Nasdaq Composite drops 654.94 points (-3.64%) on 24 July, marking its third-largest one-day point loss. The S&P 500 drops 128.61 points (-2.31%) on the same day, marking its fifteenth-largest one-day point loss. (AP) (CNBC) Disasters and accidents 2024 Pacific typhoon season Typhoon Gaemi Metro Manila, Philippines, is placed under a state of calamity due to flash floods caused by Typhoon Gaemi. (Bloomberg) Two people are killed and 266 others are injured by Typhoon Gaemi in northern Taiwan as the typhoon passes through Fujian province, China, and heads inland. (Reuters) 2024 Canadian wildfires 2024 Jasper wildfire Two wildfires burning in Jasper National Park reach the Jasper townsite in Alberta, causing several structure fires, with over 25,000 residents evacuating their homes since Monday. (Edmonton Journal) Air quality in Calgary and the surrounding areas are raised to "high risk" as winds blow smoke into the region. (CBC News) 2024 Nouakchott migrant boat disaster Fifteen people are killed and more than 195 others are missing after a boat carrying migrants capsizes near Nouakchott, Mauritania. (CNN) 2024 Saurya Airlines Bombardier CRJ200 crash A Bombardier CRJ-200 crashes during takeoff at Tribhuvan International Airport in Kathmandu, Nepal, killing eighteen people on board, with only the captain surviving. (Reuters) Ten migrants are found drowned in a river near the Colombia–Panama border, according to Panamanian border police. (Al Jazeera) International relations Israel–Hamas war Israel–Hamas war protests in the United States July 2024 protest in Washington, D.C. A series of protests occur across Washington, D.C., to protest a speech given by Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu to a joint session of the United States Congress. (Reuters) (WRC-TV) Israel–United States relations Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu addresses a joint session of the United States Congress amid protests over Israel's conduct of the war in Gaza. (AP) (Reuters) China–Russia relations, China–United States relations, Russia–United States relations The North American Aerospace Defense Command intercepts two Russian and two Chinese bomber aircraft flying together near Alaska, marking the first record of Chinese H-6 aircraft entering Alaska's Air Defense Identification Zone, and marking the first time both countries were intercepted operating together. (CNN) Poland–Ukraine relations, Ukraine–European Union relations Polish Defense Minister Władysław Kosiniak-Kamysz states that Poland will block Ukraine's bid to join the European Union if it doesn't resolve issues regarding Ukrainian nationalists' massacre of Poles during WWII, including finding and burying all victims killed on current Ukrainian territory. (The Kyiv Independent) Law and crime Royal Commission of Inquiry into Abuse in Care A formal inquiry by the New Zealand government concludes that since 1950, about 200,000 people in state and religious care were abused, experiencing abuses such as rape, sterilization, and electric shocks. (Reuters) German Interior Minister Nancy Faeser closes the Islamic Centre Hamburg for allegedly propagating extremism and being a direct representative of Iranian Supreme Leader Ali Khamenei. The Iranian Foreign Ministry summons the German ambassador following the closure. (DW) Three Ukrainian soldiers are killed and four others are injured in a mass shooting after a dispute in Kharkiv Oblast, Ukraine. (Al Arabiya) Science and technology Researchers from the Scottish Association for Marine Science report evidence of dark oxygen being produced from metals on the seafloor. It was previously assumed that almost all the free oxygen (O 2) on Earth was created through photosynthesis, which requires sunlight. (NPR) Sports 142nd IOC Session At the International Olympic Committee's meeting in Paris, France, it is announced that the French Alps region has been conditionally approved to host the 2030 Winter Olympics and that Salt Lake City, Utah, United States, will host the 2034 Winter Olympics. (Fox News) (AP) 2024 Summer Olympics The Canadian Olympic Committee expels two members of the women's soccer team coaching staff from the Olympics following a spying incident involving a drone disrupting New Zealand's training session. FIFA initiates disciplinary proceedings. (Al Jazeera)

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RD: Lewis H. Lapham

Article: Lewis H. Lapham (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): NY Times
Credits:

• Nominated by Thriley (talk · give credit)

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

The editor of Harper's Magazine from 1976 until 1981, and from 1983 until 2006. Founder of Lapham's Quarterly. Death announced 24 July. Thriley (talk) 18:24, 25 July 2024 (UTC)

• Comment The first paragraph in the Works section is unsourced. The rest of the article looks okay. --Vacant0 (talk • contribs) 19:17, 27 July 2024 (UTC)
• Two {cn} tags remaining. Please add more REFs. --PFHLai (talk) 22:35, 29 July 2024 (UTC)

RD: Ray Lawler

Article: Ray Lawler (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): https://www.watoday.com.au/national/victoria/summer-of-the-seventeenth-doll-playwright-ray-lawler-dies-aged-103-20240726-p5jwxw.html
Credits:

• Nominated by HiLo48 (talk · give credit)

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Australian playright, writer of Summer of the Seventeenth Doll HiLo48 (talk) 09:25, 29 July 2024 (UTC)

Oppose Works section needs sources. PrinceofPunjab^TALK 11:31, 29 July 2024 (UTC)

(Closed) Jasper Fire

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

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Article: Jasper wildfire (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ A wildfire destroys the town of Jasper, Alberta, in Jasper National Park. (Post)
News source(s): BBC, The Guardian, CBC, Toronto Star
Credits:

• Nominated by NorthernFalcon (talk · give credit)
• Created by Koopatrev (talk · give credit)

So far, it appears no one has died due to proactive evacuations, and as such this might not meet ITN's death threshold for disasters. However, Jasper is a UNESCO World Heritage Site, and Canada's second-most prestigious national park--this is like Yosemite burning, destroying the park's infrastructure. The article still needs work, and officials still do not know the full extent of the damage. NorthernFalcon (talk) 20:38, 25 July 2024 (UTC)

• Support but Wait I would agree with the significance, but the Jasper article barely mentions the wildfires, and the Wildfire article itself is just a stub... (And minor note: Jasper National Part is a UNESCO World Heritage site, not the town of Jasper itself). Khuft (talk) 21:17, 25 July 2024 (UTC)
• Given the number of fires up and down the whole PNW, it would better to have an overarching article on these rather than focusing on one. — Masem (t) 21:34, 25 July 2024 (UTC)
• Comment. It wasn't the whole town. Footage shows the entire east side intact. It was maybe 20% of the buildings in the town. 104.171.53.110 (talk) 02:04, 26 July 2024 (UTC)

Oppose as per Masem. It would be better to link to an overarching article for fires in North America. --MtPenguinMonster (talk) 04:07, 26 July 2024 (UTC)

Oppose as per MtPenguinMonster. 66.251.117.188 (talk) 06:10, 26 July 2024 (UTC)

Oppose per all of the above. This is potentially notable as it has caused mass evacuations, but it's borderline and the standalone article is on shaky grounds. Also note that "death threshold" is just a bludgeon sometimes used to gatekeep the area and shouldn't be given any credibility. Thebiguglyalien (talk) 06:16, 26 July 2024 (UTC)

• Oppose Another summer in the northern hemisphere, another summer of wildfires. So far these are not extraordinary nor have they caused anything that is not unfortunately routine. And the town, as stated above, has not been completely destroyed. _-_Alsor (talk) 06:37, 26 July 2024 (UTC)

Oppose Albertan here. It was very sad and tragic to hear about the destruction caused by the fire in Jasper. Unfortunately, this is pretty local news and wildfires like this occur every year, and only about a third of the buildings were ruined so its not like the entire town was destroyed. If something like this happened again somewhere more well known like Banff, or if the entire town was decimated, I would support it. Hungry403 (talk) 02:17, 27 July 2024 (UTC)

Comment Don't know if I would call this "local news" considering it's even reported in Swedish national news. Yakikaki (talk) 04:36, 28 July 2024 (UTC)

Oppose Wildfires like this do happen every year, and they haven’t even destroyed the whole town. An overarching article for these types of wildfires would be better. 2604:3D08:9476:BE00:C5B3:EA0E:CA4:CDBE (talk) 18:56, 28 July 2024 (UTC)

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

(Posted) RD: Leo Burke

Article: Leo Burke (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Sescoops
Credits:

• Nominated by TDKR Chicago 101 (talk · give credit)
• Updated by Kelisi (talk · give credit) and GaryColemanFan (talk · give credit)

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Article updated and well sourced. It's a GA article too. --TDKR Chicago 101 (talk) 06:51, 25 July 2024 (UTC)

• Support - Well referenced, good article, and part of a good topic. (Disclosure: I was a major contributor to the article during its expansion 15 years ago.) GaryColemanFan (talk) 14:54, 25 July 2024 (UTC)
• Weak support - I added two CN tags, but they don’t feel like enough to prevent the article from posting, given they’re both fairly minor claims. The Kip ^(contribs) 15:11, 25 July 2024 (UTC)
• Support per The Kip. Bremps... 16:45, 25 July 2024 (UTC)
• Posted Stephen 02:42, 26 July 2024 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Randy Kehler

Article: Randy Kehler (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Greenfield Recorder
Credits:

• Nominated by Thriley (talk · give credit)

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

American pacifist, tax resister, and social justice advocate. Death announced 24 July. Thriley (talk) 21:25, 24 July 2024 (UTC)

• Oppose I have doubts that this article would even hold up if challenged for deletion given notability, though I know that isn't part of the criteria for RD. Either way the article is a really basic and doesn't establish why this person is any more notable than the other thousands of draft evaders from that era... the article should at least articulate that before it is ready for posting.RachelTensions (talk) 04:16, 25 July 2024 (UTC)

Posting something likely not needing a Wikipedia article at all on the main page is not a good idea and can probably stand as its own oppose rationale. Bremps... 07:39, 25 July 2024 (UTC)

Kehler meets GNG with press going back decades. Thriley (talk) 14:52, 25 July 2024 (UTC)

I’m not sure if I agree - the article and its sources seem to indicate his only real special notability was the squabble with the IRS over taxes, which at least to me falls under WP:BLP1E. The Kip ^(contribs) 15:08, 25 July 2024 (UTC)

There’s been coverage of him for decades. Plenty of source material exists that could be used to improve the article that isn’t currently used. Thriley (talk) 16:14, 25 July 2024 (UTC)

...well? As it stands right now the article does nothing to convey why he was anything notable as someone who evaded the draft and didn't pay his taxes. And for that reason it isn't suitable yet even for RD. RachelTensions (talk) 16:34, 25 July 2024 (UTC)

• Comment The article has been nominated for deletion, so the RD nom will have to be put on hold until that is resolved. Pawnkingthree (talk) 23:02, 25 July 2024 (UTC)

  AfD has been WP:SNOW kept, so discussion may proceed unimpeded. Curbon7 (talk) 01:00, 30 July 2024 (UTC)

Support once the tag is removed. Nominating a 14 year old BLP for AfD on the occasion of the subject's death seems a least a bit in bad faith. Nevertheless, the voting at this point is a unanimous keep and that is unlikely to change, as the nom is completely baseless. GreatCaesarsGhost 12:56, 29 July 2024 (UTC)

• Support article appears suitable. Ollieisanerd (talk • contribs) 10:23, 30 July 2024 (UTC)
• Posted. This looks clean enough for use on MainPage, but someone may want to beef up the section on his work on the Nuclear Freeze campaign. --PFHLai (talk) 12:13, 30 July 2024 (UTC)
• Post-posting support and I agree with Great CeasarsGhost that the timing of the AfD nomination was dubious at best. Jusdafax (talk) 23:54, 30 July 2024 (UTC)

(Posted) Typhoon Gaemi

Article: Typhoon Gaemi (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ Typhoon Gaemi leaves at least 16 people dead in the Philippines and Taiwan. (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ Typhoon Gaemi leaves at least 76 people dead.
News source(s): CNN, GMA Integrated News,
Credits:

• Nominated by Moraljaya67 (talk · give credit)

Nominator's comments: The typhoon causes flooding across Metro Manila, Philippines, and has garnered widespread news coverage here in the country.

• Wait I suggest waiting for the typhoon to end to justify the death count. 🍗TheNuggeteer🍗 12:39, 25 July 2024 (UTC)
• Wait for more information. It looks like Taiwan has suffered a lot just like the Philippines, and this typhoon is currently impacting China as of this writing. This is shaping up to be the most significant typhoon since Doksuri – which ironically is a Korean-contributed name like Gaemi – but its impacts are not yet over. Vida0007 (talk) 15:25, 25 July 2024 (UTC)

  Wait Article is too unstable. Bremps... 16:16, 25 July 2024 (UTC)

  • Support as the article has stabilized and the human cost is clear. Bremps... 16:54, 29 July 2024 (UTC)

• Wait per others. Gaemi is currently impacting China, and the article has yet to detail any China impacts. ArkHyena (talk) 20:28, 25 July 2024 (UTC)
• Support The typhoon has now dissipated, and the article appears to be of decent quality. Gödel2200 (talk) 20:30, 29 July 2024 (UTC)
• Support per Bremps --_ZZ^Z'S 20:45, 29 July 2024 (UTC)
• Posted Stephen 03:16, 31 July 2024 (UTC)

Nepal plane crash

Article: 2024 Saurya Airlines Bombardier CRJ200 crash (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ A Bombardier CRJ-200 crashes during takeoff at Tribhuvan International Airport in Kathmandu, Nepal, killing eighteen on board (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ An airplane crash in Nepal kills eighteen on board.
News source(s): (Reuters)
Credits:

• Nominated by QalasQalas (talk · give credit)

• Weak support Probably notable enough, but article feels a bit too brief. The Kip ^(contribs) 19:18, 24 July 2024 (UTC)
• Oppose. No one involved is notable, there's nothing to distinguish this from any other plane crash, and as of today there have been no significant ramifications. Not significant or notable. Thebiguglyalien (talk) 19:34, 24 July 2024 (UTC)

  How is an airliner crash not notable? Aydoh8 (talk | contribs) 00:41, 25 July 2024 (UTC)

  "No one notable" was involved in Malaysian Airlines flights 370 (went missing) and 17 (shot down by Russian-backed forces), that part of your reasoning doesn't work. But I am neutral on this since the crash is getting coverage but it also doesn't seem as notable as the usual blurbed crashes. Tube·of·Light 04:39, 26 July 2024 (UTC)

• Support in principle Jet crashes with a significant number of casualties are quite rare nowadays, so I think this meets the significance threshold. Curbon7 (talk) 22:19, 24 July 2024 (UTC)

  They're not that rare in Nepal; this is the sixth fatal crash with a double-figure death toll (and there are six more with a lesser toll) in the last ten years. Black Kite (talk) 02:00, 25 July 2024 (UTC)

  @Black Kite Could you provide a well-articulated and cited argument to support your point? Thanks. QalasQalas (talk) 11:08, 25 July 2024 (UTC)

  Their point is easily found on wikipedia. Celjski Grad (talk) 11:23, 25 July 2024 (UTC)

  Thank you, I was not aware of that context. Curbon7 (talk) 11:57, 28 July 2024 (UTC)

• Support Airliner crash with multiple fatalities, big coverage Dora the Axe-plorer (explore) 01:33, 25 July 2024 (UTC)

Support but wait Good work on obtaining a free image. Let's see if there are any revelations on why the airplane crashed. Bremps... 06:49, 25 July 2024 (UTC)

• Oppose Unless a notable cause of the crash is established, I do not think this is notable enough. Airplane crashes are relatively common in Nepal. For precedent, see the Nepal Airlines Flight 183 (which had the same number of fatalities as this crash) nomination from 2014, which was not posted. Gödel2200 (talk) 14:12, 25 July 2024 (UTC)
• Somewhat perplexing calls for a wait until the cause is established. That's not how anything has worked ever, not ITN, not plane crashes. Are we going to keep waiting for the full report to come out in 2026? They've already said they don't know what happened. Why not just straightforward oppose since this is going to be stale way before they are going to say more? Usedtobecool ☎️ 14:34, 25 July 2024 (UTC)

To clarify, what I'm saying is that unless a notable cause of the crash is established, I do not think this should be posted. I have updated my comment to specify this. Gödel2200 (talk) 17:24, 25 July 2024 (UTC)

• Oppose Per Usedtobecool, unless a notable cause of the crash is established, I do not think this is notable enough. Airplane crashes are relatively common in Nepal. For precedent, see the Nepal Airlines Flight 183 (which had the same number of fatalities as this crash) nomination from 2014, which was not posted. Integer123 (talk) 19:20, 25 July 2024 (UTC)

  You're opposing per a user who never said they oppose this nomination? Usedtobecool is pointing out how Gödel2200's rationale is nonsensical and does not reflect how ITN works. And you copied Gödel2200's reasoning word-for-word, copying other people's arguments verbatim is not how ITN works, you need to phrase it on your own. Tube·of·Light 04:34, 26 July 2024 (UTC)

• Needs work The NYT explains The Overlooked Reason That Planes Crash So Often in Nepal. The article says nothing of this systemic corruption. Andrew🐉(talk) 19:59, 25 July 2024 (UTC)

(Posted) Ongoing: 2024 Summer Olympics

Article: 2024 Summer Olympics (talk · history · tag)
Ongoing item nomination (Post)
News source(s): NBC News
Credits:

• Nominated by PrinceofPunjab (talk · give credit)

Nominator's comments: While the games formally opens on the 26th, the events have started in the last few hours. I think we should get it posted by the 26th so that people who search for the games will find it on the main page. PrinceofPunjab^TALK 14:42, 24 July 2024 (UTC)

• Support Agree with nom that we should try to post it early. Currently the list of non-competitive venues appears to be unsourced. Gödel2200 (talk) 15:07, 24 July 2024 (UTC)
• Support ongoing and initial blurb Article quality seems good enough for an initial post; will only expand from here. Kcmastrpc (talk) 15:08, 24 July 2024 (UTC)
• Support per above. Article seems to already be in fine shape, agree with nom re: events already underway. The Kip ^(contribs) 17:22, 24 July 2024 (UTC)
• Wait for the opening ceremony on Friday, which we will blurb per WP:ITNR#Multi-sport_events. Preliminary rounds in a small subset of sports aren't the story here. Modest Genius ^talk 17:36, 24 July 2024 (UTC)
• Support posting now. I think it's irrelevant that the Opening Ceremony hasn't happened yet - the games are, in fact, ongoing as of now. DarkSide830 (talk) 17:38, 24 July 2024 (UTC)
• Wait none of these pre opening events will give final medals, it's just events that have multiple rounds that take more time to complete. Post the opening ceremonies and then when that rolls off, add to ongoing. Masem (t) 17:58, 24 July 2024 (UTC)
  • Also whole this will get to ongoing eventually, we will have four (effectively seven) items in it and will overflow to a third line. We should consider a removal such as the Sudan conflict at least while the Olympics are on there, and then read it afterwards, only as a maintenance issue, not for permanent removal. Masem (t) 18:26, 24 July 2024 (UTC)
• Wait until the opening ceremony, then it can be posted in ongoing alongside the blurb. Estreyeria (talk) 18:05, 24 July 2024 (UTC)
• Support posting even before the opening ceremony. The chronological summary is perhaps a better target article.--Kiril Simeonovski (talk) 19:43, 24 July 2024 (UTC)
• Support ITNR doesn't dictate exactly how we post this, and based on comments above I think it would be acceptable to put the chronological summary into ongoing now, wait to nom/post the opening ceremony on the 26th, and then add the main article to ongoing. And FWIW it's not just preliminary rounds, all of the rugby sevens games except the final will be played before the opening ceremony. Kingsif (talk) 20:26, 24 July 2024 (UTC)
• Comment I'd actually suggest to run a blurb with the opening ceremony, wait until it rolls off the ITN, and then put it to ongoing. The opening ceremony is a big thing on itself. Provided the article is ok and all that. --Tone 20:57, 24 July 2024 (UTC)

  That's what we usually do, right? Kingsif (talk) 22:47, 24 July 2024 (UTC)

  Yes, that's usual. Stephen 22:50, 24 July 2024 (UTC)

  That’s basically a very bad practice. In case there are very few blurbs to post in the next two weeks, this may not get posted onto ongoing at all. So, this should appear in ongoing independently from the blurb on the opening ceremony.--Kiril Simeonovski (talk) 22:55, 24 July 2024 (UTC)

  If we post the opening blurb and no significant number of blurbs come around to knock it out, we can either prematurely send it to ongoing, or change the blurb away from the opening ceremony to just saying they are ongoing. We want a link to the games in the ITN box for the two weeks the games are officially open, it doesn't matter if it's a blurb or ongoing. Masem (t) 23:06, 24 July 2024 (UTC)

  I'm not convinced by that reasoning at all. The opening ceremony is one thing and the progress of the Olympics is another thing. That's why we should post a link to the games in the blurb on the opening ceremony and a link to the chronological summary in ongoing. Nothing precludes us from doing this. After all, it's the largest recurrent event in the world. Waiting to post onto ongoing is the biggest misservice that we can offer to our readers who wouldn't have a direct link to the event summary on the main page.--Kiril Simeonovski (talk) 07:05, 25 July 2024 (UTC)

  There is still no reason that we cannot figure out a blurb for the opening ceremonies that includes a link to the games proper and perhaps even to the event summary. — Masem (t) 13:31, 25 July 2024 (UTC)

• Wait until the Opening Ceremony, then it'll be a support. I understand that it technically is going on currently, but still, the opening ceremony is the "beginning" of the Summer Olympics, even if it isn't official. TomMasterReal^TALK 23:52, 24 July 2024 (UTC)
• Wait per above. The Opening Ceremony is scheduled to be on the 26th, I think we should wait for that first (despite some Olympic events starting earlier). Officially, the Olympics will start tomorrow, surely this proposed ongoing item can be deferred for (at least) 24 hours more before it gets posted to that section. Vida0007 (talk) 15:23, 25 July 2024 (UTC)

Just post Not at the moment I am writing this but the admins might be seeing "wait" as the most recent comment by the time the Games actually starts. Bremps... 16:52, 25 July 2024 (UTC)

• Wait There should be a blurb for the opening ceremony first, then it should move to Ongoing. Pawnkingthree (talk) 22:54, 25 July 2024 (UTC)
• Security and Sabotage should be the emphasis of the blurb if we have one as these seem to have been the main focus of the news coverage today. See 2024 France railway arson attack, for example. The opening ceremony seems a damp squib as the ships, shows and spectacles seem rather tiny and insignificant in the setting of the Seine. The weather hasn't helped. Andrew🐉(talk) 18:06, 26 July 2024 (UTC)

  Opening ceremony looks pretty spectacular on TV, to be honest. Disagree that the arson attack should be the focus of the post - seems to be minor in the grand scheme of Olympic things. Khuft (talk) 20:01, 26 July 2024 (UTC)

To quote an external source: "There's never been a show like this! Opening ceremony is spectacular" (Frankfurter Allgemeine Zeitung) Khuft (talk) 20:22, 26 July 2024 (UTC)

YMMV. The New York Times lead headlines are currently: Opening Ceremony Floats Down Seine; Paris Investigates Rail Sabotage The ceremony is being held under rainy skies. Earlier, coordinated attacks disrupted high-speed train links to Paris, delaying over a million travelers. The rail sabotage was carefully planned to cause maximum disruption on what was supposed to be a day of glory for France. Andrew🐉(talk) 21:07, 26 July 2024 (UTC)

Well, I'm looking forward to Los Angeles topping this in 2028 then. Khuft (talk) 21:25, 26 July 2024 (UTC)

• FWIW for 2020, it was only placed in Ongoing after the opening blurb had rolled off.—Bagumba (talk) 02:52, 27 July 2024 (UTC)

  There were quality concerns regarding the article which had to posted onto ongoing. Anyway, it's a bad practice. Nothing precludes us from linking to the chronological summary from ongoing.--Kiril Simeonovski (talk) 09:39, 27 July 2024 (UTC)

Support ongoing, even if concurrent with a news blurb (which may or may not mention the arson). I don't see a reason why it can't have both at the same time. QueensanditsCrazy (talk) 10:20, 27 July 2024 (UTC)

• Immediate Support. The games have opened with competition already in progress. In fact, the first medals have already been awarded. KyuuA4 (Talk:キュウ) 13:59, 27 July 2024 (UTC)
• Can we get this posted into ongoing? As the above editor said, the games have already started. It seems like the opening ceremony article is in bad shape, so that may not get posted for a while. Natg 19 (talk) 19:10, 27 July 2024 (UTC)
  • I have added this article to ongoing, though if the opening ceremony one is improved, then it should be temporarily taken off. However, I have not added the Chronology article at this time as it is in far worse state from a sourcing standpoint (I know it will be filled with results, but the planned events should still be sourced before then). --Masem (t) 19:15, 27 July 2024 (UTC)
    • I took the time to add the six missing refs (for the pre-opening day summaries) and have added the chronological article as the timeline to the ongoing — Masem (t) 23:02, 28 July 2024 (UTC)

RD: Hamzah Haz

Article: Hamzah Haz (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Media Indonesia Bloomberg CGTN
Credits:

• Nominated by Tensa Februari (talk · give credit)
• Updated by Mmnashrullah (talk · give credit)

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Former Vice President, article is good enough. Tensa Februari (talk) 04:01, 24 July 2024 (UTC)

• Suppport: per Bloomberg CGTN QalasQalas (talk) 09:36, 24 July 2024 (UTC)

It's not about whether the death is widely covered, it's about whether the article is up to par. Bremps... 16:29, 25 July 2024 (UTC)

• Oppose Multiple uncited sentences, including one that accuses him of being an apologist for terrorism (which I've just removed); poorly written in places. Black Kite (talk) 16:23, 24 July 2024 (UTC)

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